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Holy Shit!!!!!! It's too bad the viddy couldn't have shown the soldier getting back up and finding a target. That would've been AWESOME!!!!! Take that, Haji!
Could you post a direct link to the wmv file? Mac & Linux users can't see this.
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if you are using Mac (or Linux) open up Terminal and type in: curl -O http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG%20briefing%20sniper%20clip.wmv (or perhaps wget instead of curl if you are using Linux) That will download the file to your home directory.
If you are using a Mac, right click on the Download link above and click Save Link. Then it will download the movie to your local desktop.
What a great vid! I love this jack army video blog.
"If you are using a Mac, right click." One butan.
Mortimer thinks this video is kewl...
Does "Allah Akbar" mean "God Is Great", or "I Just Crapped My Pants"?
man that is what Im talking about! Fuck those pussy bitches! Our man bounced right back on your asses and Im sure killed a few more of you bas-tards!
Muslim terrorists are backwards people. They can't manufacture aircraft so all they can do is take pot-shots. This is further proof of our superior American culture at work.
I really think these boneheads should not be graced with a title of "sniper." What range was that video taken from? 50 yards? I'm sure even our worst rifleperson in any service could have made that shot. Snipers? You have to be kidding...Carlos Hathc
That was great to watch the soldier pop right back up like a weeble and the muj just trails off mid 'Akbar'
“God Bless America” "I support the troops and their mission" Now that's what I call a soldier. Shot in the chest and jumped right up and looked for the kill. Carlos you nailed it. These hacks don't deserve the title sniper.
Thats great he didnt die but had it been a Marine there would of been some shooting going on. Where was the gunner in the turret? why didnt the guy who got hit return fire?
In response to Yut, that was an area with civilians around. You can't just open fire till you've acquired a target. I don't like the second guessing of this soldier.
Just found this from Michael Yon ( http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/ ) ... "I spent much of the night at the TOC getting caught up on the ever-changing Mosul, where soldiers showed captured enemy video of a sniper attack in Baghdad. An American soldier w
what he really needed to do was jump up and tell them dumb fucks that he was in fact Allah himself. After that he should have told them to kill themselves or he would condemn them to hell
btw, for linux, mplayer 'http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG briefing sniper clip.wmv' or just do open URL in your favorite media player, or just click download link. Also, I get the feeling that if the message for "not supported" didn't come up, that it wo
After listening to the rats and their chanting, they feel its a holy war. If they hack heads,bomb innocent people and like crapping in the sand, then we'd better slice through them with some of our holy steel as they don't know anything but death.
Go to this link for the background story: http://www.armytimes.com/story.p...2925- 976420.php
Any way to save this as a video file? This is one to save!
Thebronze there is a download link right under the video "right click" "save as"
Can anyone read the sign on the back of the Hummer? It looks like it's in English and Arabic, that the top line says "Danger," but what's the second line say? Something Sniper?
Woohoo! Thank God that soldier was ok. Too bad he couldn't return the favor. Those p**ies couldn't even yell allah kabar loud in case they get caught and receive some serious pain.
They should take this tape, show 12 men watching a copy, pronouncing the men guilty in an Iraqi court, Iraqi soldiers putting the sniper and cameraman against the wall and executing them. Then play that on Iraqi TV every night for a month. It might do some good.
Interesting... The flak jackets aren't designed to stop a high powered rifle bullet, only artillery splinters! Thats one lucky kid.
The story continues: The soldier located the source of fire about 75 meters to his 1200. A silver van was being used as a mobile sniper position. The interior was lined with mattresses to muffle the shots. It was occupied by the sniper, a spotter, and a driver. When the location was ID'd, the squad opened up on it wounding the sniper and spotter who fled on foot leaving a trail of blood. The driver was detained. Following the trail of blood, the sniper was found cowering in a private courtyard. The targeted soldier secured the prisoner before administering first aid. Damned Americans and their Nazi, gulag, Pol Pot tactics!How dare we treat terrorist prisoners better than the terrorists treat their own mothers.
He wasn't wearing a 'flak jacket' and SAPI plates can stop multiple 7.62x54R hits
We don't we do that to you, Kiki? God forbid you should get a clue.
I don't see what the big freakin deal is. So he got back up? If you don't think that Americans do the same thing to the Muslim people, you are delusional. This is a war that cannot be won. This bloodshed is vicious and unnerving. Why don't we stick president bush out there and have them take potshots at him? Yep, he sees our men as expendable, and god forbid any one of his children has to go to war.
Judging by their accents, they're either gulf arabs, or Saudis. Can't understand what they say. I studied Arabic for 4 years and lived in Riyadh for 5.
Holy crap! That guy is in my bud's BCT!!!
It is interesting how much they want to see the Secret Service and the Special Forces thinned, these people who want to put Bush into a warzone. I would guess about a couple of teams of the SF would have to die before they could even get to Bush, with around 100% of the Secret Service already dead. Which is why they want Bush in a warzone, they can't kill the Special Forces easily so they have to get them where they can't run around. God forbid the people who like to see Bush go into a war zone, would ever encounter the wives, children, and loved ones of the Secret Service personnel and the Special Forces operators that died in their duty protecting the President. Hey, I guess when you're a fanatic, anybody is expendable. Even your own countrymen.
US should've invaded Saudi Arabia, its not like the Arab people, the Persians and Turks just LOVE the Saudi royal family. Saudi Arabia is even NAMED after them. Invade and kill the royal family, and people will be happy. They're dictators and cruel rulers, who DO fund terrorist organizations.
Hmmm... this video just reflects a normal part of war. I'm sure that in 1944 an American sniper tried to kill a German soldier from 50 yards away and did not succeed because the bullet got stuck in the German soldier's overcoat. The German soldier got up and shot back at the American sniper. Does this mean that the American sniper was a terrorist? Think for a minute here... It's freekin' war people! I understand if the man targeted is an innocent civilian, but this is not the case. It's a soldier from the U.S. army. There is nothing morally wrong in this picture. The only factor playing out in this charade is called nationalism.
If Sib thinks this is a charade, he is a total and complete fool. Go back to the campus Sib, and tell your prof that you are a free thinker.
Quote: "If Sib thinks this is a charade, he is a total and complete fool. Go back to the campus Sib, and tell your prof that you are a free thinker." War is no charade/game, and that is something that I didn't even have to mention because it is obvious to all those who have a portion of reason left in their minds. What I do have to specifically mention to those who can't think on their own is that I did not mean that war is a charade, but that this topic presented is a charade. This typical black and white philosophy of "terrorists" vs. patriotic all-American soldiers is what I'm calling a charade. The logic presented on some of the arguments here is laughable. I just wanted to clear some thing up here... before you call me a free-thinking jihadist who rapes children as a living.
There's more than one fool commenting here...
Now,now folks, remember Sib is a "nuanced" "thinker", a "progressive"...and a completely ignorant fool. But it is nice to see the Left drop their phony "We support the Troops" line, and acknowledge they prefer to see US troops dead and the terrorists, excuse me, "insurgents" win. The same noble "insurgents" who do things like shoot up a bus and kill several woman whose sin was doing our laundry at a US base. Sib no doubt considers himself morally superior to the posters here and the soldiers in Iraq. However Sib is a moral coward unwilling to call the bad guys what they are because that would be too "simplistic". The Left has been very good at hiding their lack of character beneath a veneer of high sounding rhetoric. Oh and before any moonbats start the "chickhawk" BS I am on my second tour here in Iraq with the TXANG. So yeah, I am glad the US soldier was alright and that we nailed the shooters. One final word to Sib, crawl back under your rock.
Dude, you're the fanatic. You're just like the terrorists we're fighting, in that you're unwilling/unable to see past your tunnel vission, black and white perception of USA All the Way vs. Sand Nigger Jihadis. You seem incapable of seeing moral absolutism as anything other than "good," and open-mindedness and reason as anything other than "cowardice." You're putting words in the guy's mouth. Liberals in the U.S. have nothing against the soldiers, nor sympathy for car bombers. Who we have a bone to pick with are the real moral cowards - men like George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheyney - men who have never seen a battle in their life, and yet rush to war as their first alternative. What we are against is a war based on deception (found those WMD's, yet) that, as it is being currently waged, is going to plunge Iraq into civil war and bankrupt us. So you're stationed in Iraq? My hat goes off to you; it takes balls to operate in a combat zone. However, my admiration for you stops right there. Just as no one can claim superiority over a soldier, you're no better than I am, chump. Regardless of where you're stationed.
I'm not a liberal leftist. I'm not a conservative or a neocon. And whether I am pro or anti Iraq is not of your concern because it does not fit in this argument's logic. We are simply discussing matters of reason and of REALITY. I am a pragmatist. Before you decide to classify and generalize me into a group for stating a sound logic that you do not seem to share, first at least try to see things for what they are. How can you state that the man shooting that soldier there is a terrorist that blows buses and women up if you do not know him or his past? Call him an insurgent, yes, but you do not know enough of his past as to call the man a terrorist. I find it interesting that as you generalize this insurgent as a terrorist, you have generalized me into a leftist, even though you know nothing of either of us. Sure, his cronies do cause the deaths of many innocent civilians and they may be called terrorists, but as far as this video is concerned, he has done nothing that we know of that would earn him the title of a terrorist. He is going after a soldier of the U.S. army as the U.S. army would go after a member of the insurgency. He is playing by the rules of war. To call this man a terrorist would be the same as to call every single American sniper that has shot enemy troops, terrorists for shooting at the enemy.
Okay, Sib, lets just take your argument start to finish and show how you are stupid. First, you describe that an American shooting at the German is a terrorist. he is not. The reason is simple, he is a soldier in an army which has preset combat zones, obeying by at least the most general guideline that civilians are not to be killed. Terrorists do no such thing, the kidnap and murder of the Egyptian envoy shows that civilians are just as much intended victims as anyone else. Secondly, why is THIS SNIPER a terrorist? Well, lets put it this way. If you hang out in a gang, and associate with other gangsters, and dress talk and act like the other people in the gang you hang out with, I will call you a gangster. This man is carrying out combat operations in an urban area crammed with civilians, true. However, by doing so he is also using civilians as cover. If this was a combat zone, the U.S. Soldier could have just called in a couple flyboys and iced every building in a mile. However, because it is a city, this would incur civilian casualties, so he is trapped by the rules of war, leaving the sniper to take advantage of this. In short, we show contempt for him because he hides behind our own decency and uses innocents as a shield. Finally, lets look at the big picture. Lets say the soldier crawled away. Do you, for a second, believe that the sniper would go and render aid? I would bet my life that if he could, he would walk right up and shoot that man right in the head, just like his allies did to that Romanian Heli Pilot two months ago. What did we do? Soldiers engage in combat, and once combat is over, they treat the enemy like a human being.
Dear Tyrone, blah blah blah. Good Day.
yes, good is great, but sometimes on the "wrong" side :-)
The fact of the matter is that, really, (most) of the soldiers out there are out there doing a job, no matter how misguided or righteous their leaders may or may not be. It's good to see that one of them at least, will live long enough to see tomorrow's sunrise.
OMFG! That's one lucky soldier; you can tell training and instincts took over when he dropped and got back up again. I'd pay a million bucks to see the look on the Insurgent sniper's face when he saw his target get up and take cover, seemingly unhurt. Great job to the guys that caught this sorry SOB; now that soldier has something to talk about once he returns home from the field. GOOD JOB, SOLDIER.
Re: Your Sniper Video: It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion. Thanks to the BBC, not the U.S. media, it was exposed as a fraud- a staged rescue with faked resistance. If it's not a fake, it could be the guy had a bullet-proof vest on; I'd bet on it because there's no other way, if he was hit, no way to tell for sure from that video, he could have gotten back up. Ever notice how our troops look (appropriately?) like the storm troopers from Star Wars? Anyway, assuming it's authentic. What's the news value? Jack
"Soldiers engage in combat, and once combat is over, they treat the enemy like a human being." Or they should, Gitmo and Abu Ghraib prove that extremely often in this war it is otherwise. Take note that like 80% of the people tho were put into Gitmo in the first place turned out to be nothing more but Taliban *hired soldiers*, that is to say, Afghans who were not especially fanatic, but simply trying to get some bucks to feed their families in a country that had been going down the drain for decades, so the only way many adult men down there know to make bucks is to get hired as troopers by some warlord, militia or whatever (which is less bad than growing opium poppy - at least it keeps the killing local) - or even complete innocents who were ratted by neighbors that were only after the rewards paid by the Coalition for terrorist *suspects*, or after their neighbor's 4WDs and saw ratting them out to the Coalition as a convenient way to get rid of them. Anyways, let's just say that I think that in 10 years or so we'd wish that the Iraq war would never have happened - and that even many of those who are really knee-jerk "GO USA" now will see it like that - I could long argue why so, but we shall just wait and see. Let's just mention that what came out of this Iraq thing is, amongst others: - some tens of thousands of new recruits for international terrorism, - a morale boost for fanatical Islam, - getting rid of a really bad dictator, who did however not pose a threat to any other country and much less of a threat to his own citizens as of recently than, say, in the 1980s, - the establishment of a government in his stead whose main financial and ideological backers are the hardliners from Tehran, - freedom and liberty for Iraqis, most of which are too busy just surviving to cherish that, - a nearly complete tying down of US ground forces (discounting readiness and reserve forces) for an indetermined period of time, - the realization that the current US administration is willing and able to resort to complete and utter lies in the face of the People to get through with its politics, - the realization that the current US military command is riddled by "groupthink", rendering it unable to realistically anticipate, plan and finally win a war against an enemy who not even has a single armored vehicle at his disposal, - the realization that the power elites of the West's main "allies" in the Middle East, namely Saudia Arabia and Pakistan, are a bunch of vengeful, back-stabbing bastards who have too much bucks for their own goods, as international terrorism's largest financial contributors are a bunch of citizens of these aforementoned countries. As a final note, I salute the medic. He should serve as an example for everybody in this conflict, following his duty without digressing to launch himself into primitive acts of violence. The fact that the enemy sniper received not a quick bullet, but medical aid, may just have been the experience that opened his eyes and showed him the wrongs of his ways. When attacked, it is necessary to defend oneself. But with cries for blood and vengeance, we only give the terrorists/guerilla/freedom fighters/whatnot the excuse they need to look down on us. These guys are trying to force this jihad-vs-crusade thingie down out throats. And it disgusts me to see so many people eagerly swallowing the bait. It is, after all, far from certain that *we* will be the ones that will win this war. Our fighting power is very much tied to political conditions, availability of billions of dollars, technical infrastructure etc etc, while these guys will do with a crappy carbine if they find nothing better, do not fear death and consider this a war that, nonwithstanding their *individual* scorecard, was designed to be sustainable and prolongable for decades, centuries even, if that need arise. We may have the better guns, but these guys have a capacity for prolonging this war that the West simply cannot match. If they still got us in their little backyard brawl a decade after peak oil, we're done for. Might be they will not win for another decade or three or five, but they will win. That is why IMHO this whole thing needs to be de-escalated as long as we're still in a position to negotiate on favorable grounds. And you good ole' boys should definitely tune up your understanding of strategy and read Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Mao's treatise of guerilla war - even if neither of them's American and one is a Commie to boot; they at least knew how to WIN their wars, and what more, how still to win when you're outnumbered and outgunned.
If you think we are losing this war it more than likely going to be your fault. The only way we could possibly fail is losing the support of the people. BTW no military uniform = terrorist check the Geneva conventions
I'm going to have to call bullshit on that one, Rip. That was the same excuse that people made for how we lost Vietnam; that Americans weren't "behind their leader," even though Nixon was one of the worst liars we've ever had in office. No, the reason that we're losing is because our leadership is both mired in bureaucratic landslides, and not even sure what "winning" translates into. Regardless of how the media spins it, the amount of insurgent attacks INCREASING per day is not winning, and the incompetence of our leaders is not affected in one way or the other by any person's sentiments about the war. You simply expect an Iraqi insurgent to come out in the open and dress up like a target, just so that he can play according to our rules? The British made similar comments 200 years ago when American snipers, refusing to fight in archaic 18th century battlefield tactics, simply hid out in trees and shot their generals.
RipRip: your optimism is nice, but is it founded? Imagine Iran upping the ante and announcing development of a nuclear weapon (which is not a nice or particularly smart move, but there is no law anywhere that forbids it). Will Rummy have the R&D site bombed? Possibly. Will Iran consider this an act of war? Most certainly. Will they let loose their considerable conventional SSM arsenal at US bases in Iraq (which are plotted into the targetting computers by now if they have at least a single brain cell left)? Probably. Will they block the Straits? They'll at least try to. Will they pour millions of money, arms and equipment to the Shia militias in Iraq? Certainly. Will the Iraqi Shiites turn against the US? Must be feared. Does the US have the manpower in ground forces available to counter this? Not at all - take a look at the South Korean-North Korean border as of lately to see what I mean. So as you can see, the hopes of winning this by slugging it out hinge on the assumption that all other 'rogue states' will not seize upon the fact that the US Army/USMC have not enough turning room left for another major war, and that the economical/geopolitical situation stays stable for the next 5 years or so; tough chance I say. If the plans for pullout beginning 2006 are implemented, the US military will regain some much-needed breathing space: as you would have noted had you followed the news this spring, the Mullahs in Tehran are laughing Washington in the face and all Washington can do is grind its teeth - there were not even threats of military action when Iran broke off negotiations, and when Tehran was asked to go back to negotiationg, Washington was told in no uncertain terms to sod off and die, so Washington had to ask, of all countries, France to try and do their best to bring Iran back to talking. but at the same time, the guerilla fighters and terrorists will cheer and say they've sent the infidel dogs back home with the tails between their legs, and from their point of view, they're actually right. And this will be duly noted in every home and village between Kupang. So though you may be right, you'd better not be so smug about it, because your smugness belies your cluelessness and that you confuse faith with blind faith, and also, it's all the more embarrassing when you'd be proven wrong. how about trying to disprove my arguments for a change instead of just firing off a quip and thinking that would be enough? BTW: no military uniform = militia, the Geneva convention has nothing to say about terrorists. So the Minutemen were terrorists. Point taken. Do us a courtesy and kill yourself not, spawn of terrorists, so the Colonies can come back into the arms of Mother Britain where they belong ;-P Man, I want the fanatics to get their noses bloodied and be shoved back under the rocks they crept out from so hard it hurts. But one has to be realistic about capabilities, and that means accepting the unpalatable truth that we now have some twenty thousand guys in Iraq alone who have learned the latest in terrorist/guerilla warfare techniques and just wait to be unleashed on the world. The suicide bomber groups even have to turn back recruits, because there are far more applying than they can handle, and that's not because suicide bombings are decreasing or there is any other indication that this threat is diminished. The easiest way to lose a war is to ignore the bad news. The US leadership is showing the exactly same behaviour as Saddam did in the First Gulf War. BTW they're now using TV remotes to detonate IEDs, and some groups have found a way to rig them so that they're effectively shaped charges that can pierce a Bradley and rip a Stryker to shreds. I wonder if you could do that. If not, think twice before deriding these terrorists, for their combat skills are obviously higher than yours. Oh, and where was this new technology tried out? In Fallujah, the so-called "pacified" town with "zero terrorist presence", for the love of God! So get actual and start with putting your rosie-posie pink glasses in the dustbin for a change. We're closer to losing this one than you guys were in Nam after the Tet offensive, and the only way to change anything about it is to start admitting it to yourself. May I remind you how much is at stake here, so this war should NEVER be treated nonchalantly. The other guys want to win as hard as we do, probably harder. Your behavior reminds me of the guy shouting to Allah on the video, and by God, I wonder whether in a few years' time, you will gulp like he did. I really hope not, but for that, the political leadership must come to terms with reality first. It's not the troops; as always, they're giving their best, as should be expected from any trooper. But so does the enemy - and that, from our point, is: giving their worst.
edit: I meant "in every town and village between Agadir and Kupang".
one point everyone has missed,this guy is not going home in a body bag after that shot and his family will not receive a crappy letter saying their son died in action.
Terrorist: "Allah Akbar!! hmm? wtf? Did you just see.... Damn, this video won't sell now."
Wow, great armor. Good to see that he got up and out of there. For all the discussion on this, it seems like there is a lot of people that have their heads up their butts on this. First, for all you conservatives, stop arguing with the idiots. You can see that they play by the same handbook that liberals have always played by. There is no way you are going to look intelligent when they pick a single thing from the whole conversation and parallel it to some absurd construct like the German/US Sniper comparison or the Vietnam War/People backing thing. If there is one thing that liberals are good at, it’s diverting attention from the facts and getting you off on a ‘rant’ for something else. Liberals have and always will divert the attentions from the facts into other conversation because all they have in the end is ideas and no backbone. Let’s take a look at some of the above crap…. “It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion.” - Wait, let me refresh my memory on that… Oh yea, that is the article that showed up in a few papers that stated that the soldiers were shooting blanks when they “rescued” her. But, a big problem… The Colt type lines of rifles don’t cycle with blanks unless you have a blank firing adapter on the end. And they are kind of hard to miss. “Let's just mention that what came out of this Iraq thing is, amongst others: - some tens of thousands of new recruits for international terrorism, - a morale boost for fanatical Islam, - getting rid of a really bad dictator, who did however not pose a threat to any other country and much less of a threat to his own citizens as of recently than, say, in the 1980s…” - Apparently the whole use of Chemical Weapons on their own people was a bit too far back to look at. For cripe’s sake one of the jag-offs was nicknamed “Chemical Ali”. You don’t get that from playing with Drano. “The fact that the enemy sniper received not a quick bullet, but medical aid, may just have been the experience that opened his eyes and showed him the wrongs of his ways. “ - Anyone else think of “Saving Private Ryan” at this point? You remember that German soldier that was let go, because he was ‘innocent” and then ended up shooting the same person that saved him in the back, killing him, later in the film. That is why IMHO this whole thing needs to be de-escalated as long as we're still in a position to negotiate on favorable grounds. - Ah yes, you rant on and on that this is a holy war and that they are prepared to fight for tens of decades (that’s hundreds of years) and that they will fight to the last, will all their might, and with rocks and sticks if need be because this is a holy war for them and we are on the wrong side… Oh wait, let’s see, do you really think that if you are right on those points, that they give one hair off a rat’s ass in Baghdad’s sewers for a favorable negotiation for de-escalation. And what do you propose as a solution for the fact that they look at anyone that is not Muslim, as infidels and therefore enemies? And you good ole' boys should definitely tune up your understanding of strategy and read Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Mao's treatise of guerilla war - even if neither of them's American and one is a Commie to boot; they at least knew how to WIN their wars, and what more, how still to win when you're outnumbered and outgunned. - And what makes you think that it will continue to be a ‘conventional’ war on our part? Do you think that if this kind of crap keeps up that there won’t be guerilla tactics employed by our side? I have read The Art of War and know quite a bit about guerilla warfare, and while you can sit back and complain, I can guarantee you that there will be squads that will be given ‘free reign’ to do what is necessary if the right situations exist. You simply expect an Iraqi insurgent to come out in the open and dress up like a target, just so that he can play according to our rules? The British made similar comments 200 years ago when American snipers, refusing to fight in archaic 18th century battlefield tactics, simply hid out in trees and shot their generals. - See, we are already known for it. Imagine Iran upping the ante and announcing development of a nuclear weapon (which is not a nice or particularly smart move, but there is no law anywhere that forbids it). Will Rummy have the R&D site bombed? Possibly. Will Iran consider this an act of war? Most certainly. Will they let loose their considerable conventional SSM arsenal at US bases in Iraq (which are plotted into the targeting computers by now if they have at least a single brain cell left)? Probably…. - Will it matter, once this is the response, do you think that we wouldn’t glass the sand and mop up the dust? Or just carpet bomb the whole country? Or better yet, use tactical nukes and take out only the 15 square blocks of the command and control for their militaries? Do you think for a second that if something like that was used, that the US would not respond in kind, or escalate to a reply that would leave them really thinking it was a bad decision on their part to take a whack at that hornets nest? so Washington had to ask, of all countries, France to try and do their best to bring Iran back to talking. - Wait, you bitch went we don’t get their approval, and now you bitch when we do get their approval. Man, I want the fanatics to get their noses bloodied and be shoved back under the rocks they crept out from so hard it hurts. - No you don’t, you want people to THINK that you do, but in the end you don’t. Don’t try to lie. You in the line before this one, state to do us a courtesy and kill ourselves. So that the colonies can come back in the control of Britian. But, you expect someone to believe you that while the colonies bloodied the nose of Britian for their independence; you want to bloody the nose of the fanatics… Wait, I get it. Your right, you do want to bloody the noses of the fanatics, you just weren’t clear in your statement. Here let me restate your comment for clarity. … Man, I want the conservative, war-mongering, country freeing, dictator overthrowing fanatics to get their noses bloodied… :-P and some groups have found a way to rig them so that they're effectively shaped charges that can pierce a Bradley and rip a Stryker to shreds. - Nope, Liberal PR. Pierce a Bradley, sure. Outer Armor only, but not crew/cargo compartment. Rip a Stryker to shreds… Again outer armor only. Remember people; the design of the new armor is to take the hit, blow off plates and shred the outer armor so that the energy of the weapon is neutralized BEFORE it gets to the crew and munitions. So, yea, it can look bad when one of these are hit. But, it is designed to do that, to save lives. We're closer to losing this one than you guys were in Nam after the Tet offensive, and the only way to change anything about it is to start admitting it to yourself. - But you want us to believe that you WANT the fanatics’ nose bloodied. Right? Facts are that the body count between the Tet offensive and the WHOLE WAR here are like the difference between Bill Gates Bank Balance and mine. But, when you want to look at the facts, feel free to. The political limits on the 38th parallel are not an issue here. Afghanistan is nothing like Laos… There are fewer men on the field than Vietnam and even with the increased car bombs and the like; the country is making strides to become free. Sounds like we are doing good and making more headway then we EVER did in Vietnam. May I remind you how much is at stake here, so this war should NEVER be treated nonchalantly. - Nonchalant, interesting wording. You know what it means? Calm and unconcerned about things is one definition. You seem to be taking the word to mean that you don’t take the war that way… But, you talk calmly of IED’s that shred Strykers and talk of the threat not being diminished despite our efforts to stop it, unconcerned with the result of your comments. You talk of how much is at stake in this war and then compare an opposing position to you as reminding you of the guy shouting to Allah on the video, invoking God’s help in wondering if they will gulp as the pansy assed terrorists did. Only to quickly retort that you hope not, but that the current political policies must change in order for that to be overted. Next, you give the liberal bump that it isn’t the troops, we support them, and it’s the war that we don’t support. If anyone is nonchalant about this war it is you. Yes, I know, it is not a real email address. So what, all that is doing is keeping my email address from being filled by all the drivel that liberals seem to force down any opposing viewpoint. I know I used to post my email, it just got hammered from every lefty that had a gripe. So, live with it.
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I swear it sounds like who ever is in the van is speaking Dutch. They make the shot, the one goes off on his allah akbar rant, and then the other says what i'm sure sounds like "heb je hem geraakt?" (did you hit him), and then the other replies "ja". Any details on who was caught in the van?
Why do you call them "terrorists"? Last time I checked soldiers were legitimate military targets. Do you also call your own snipers "terrorists"?
As an arab speaker...the dialogue is pretty banal. They AREN'T "like..wtf..when the guy gets up"...they're like "He got hit right?" after he walks off. I am constantly baffled how this sorta thing is becoming more and more readily available for all to watch and see. God help all the boys and girls who have to deal with this sorta thing on a daily basis. I'm be so shittin' my pants, put in the same position. I'm pissed off that the US has drawn every freakin wayward soul ("terrorist")to the Iraqi playground to duke it out...instead of fighting THEIR OWN WAR in their OWN COUNTRY.
Oh for Christ's sake. How many freakin' moonbats can you collect in one place? Gosh, I hear a lot of clucking. Strap on that suicide bomber vest and join the people you support, then. What you're engaging in is moral relativism and I don't buy it. There is a vast difference between being forced to listen to Christina Aguilara music, and being forced to wear a thong on your head and Hitler's concentration camps or Stalin's gulags. Nobody at Gitmo is starving, they're getting gourmet halal meals blessed by an imam. They get special halal meat, butchered in the halal way. We're actually bending over for these people which I find ridiculous!!! They're lucky they're alive, let alone getting a brand new Koran, a brand new prayer cap, prayer cup, and specially prepared meals *including special holiday meals with dates and honey*
This video is only half the story. According to the Army Times, the same soldier who got hit was among those who tracked down the snipers and wounded them. As the snipers fled, they were apprehended and the soldier who got hit, treated the wounded sniper who shot him.
The video came in well on my windows machine.
Jack Attack, He not only got up, but when they found the wounded sniper, our guy slapped handcuffs on him and then gave him first aid for his wounds. He showed more humanity towards the enemy than you show to your own countrymen. Putz!
Cao Whoa, you're faster than I am! This story tells you why we're gonna win this fight.
kiki The reason he got back up is the same reason that the Iraqis will get back up and beat the jihadis. When Saddam feeds you into a chipper, rapes your daughter in front of you, kills thousands of Kurds through chemical weapons, slaughters hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who only ask that they be allowed to live free without fear, etc., etc. We liberate 50 million in Afghanistan and Iraq, open the door to democracy in Ukraine, Lebanon, Kuwait, Kyryzyckstan (sic!!!) and maybe even Syria & Egypt, shut down the Khan nuclear pipeline, and get Libya to come clean on nukes. And you hate Bush so much you want to undo all that? You're not like the liberals I used to know. You're more like the "useful idiots" the SU thought would save their bacon. 1989 put the kabosh on that. Iraq will put the kabosh on you.
Where did all the moonbats come from? Why the trash talking on whether a person's position depends on whether someone served in a combat zone or not? Did Lincoln, Roosevelt, Wilson, Clinton and many others serve in combat? No. But that doesn't mean you can dismiss their ideas out of hand. Or accept those that did serve without questioning. "It's the Ideas, Stupid!" As for the reasons to go into Iraq. We only need one that's valid, not that all reasons are found valid. Sanctions crumbling (thank Oil-for-Food bribes for that), investigation of WMD capabilities at a standstill, Iraqi violation of Armistice terms, attempted assassination of a former President, firing at Coalition planes patrolling the No-fly zones, violation of UN resolutions _ Sheesh, any one was enough to authorize any right-thinking nation to go clean Saddam's clock. But that's not enough for the moonbats, right? Killing fields, violation of UN-mandated imperatives, etc. That's not important. Instead, let's stick it to Bush. That's why this fight will be longer and harder than necessary - moonbat ankle-biters will make it so. Sad. hand.
i wish they didnt release this video...my concern is that this will get back to the terrorists in iraq who will aim to shoot outside the area where a flak jacket is worn
Too bad they didn't capture him returning fire on their chicken shit asses.
Evil tried to take another life, but was denied. Shouldn't we all be extremely happy? :)
Great clip that, rather reminds me of the time the Jihadis ambushed a convoy whilst video taping it then it all went horribly down hill for them as an American patrol rolled onto the scene.Also those that think that these Jihadis are 'freedom fighters' as Micky Moore called em - oh wait 'Minutemen' sorry my mistake is what he called them should perhaps stop and think for a second. Freedom fighters who perpously detonate thier carbombs around crowds of children? Blowing up bombs next to petrol tankers outside of Mosques - real freedom fighter actions there the stuff of heros eh? These people belong to no offically recognised force as such (ok Syria and Iran help), they were no unifroms,they are not recognised by any goverment in the whole world (like the taliban), they are holy warrior clowns.end of argument
one of the guys ask" hebben we hem geraakt?" thats dutch for "did we hit him?"
"Thank God, but..." I get tired of the rhetorical and selfserving "caring" about our troops and the almost meaningless ribbons festooning automobiles of those who really care almost nothing. It's the same bunch who were spitting on the soldiers coming back from Vietnam while saying, "actually we love them" If you support our troops, why don't you shut up and get behind them?
Here's the supposed bruise left from the shot and the damage to the body armor: http://moneycentral.groups.msn.com/ADSXMoneyCentral/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=121619&LastModified=4675529781091305460
That was some shitload of luck, no doubt. Americans should really stop being such unrealistic about their army, they sucks. No really, you even say "We won WWII!" News Flash: You only took out the Japanese (not to do alot with WWII... ugh) and with an unnecesarry number of innocent people dying from two a-bombs. Also, thank the SAS for giving a hand in big missions and the juggernaut news flash: Russians ended the war. Yeah. Guess who took over berlin and sticked a flag on the parialemntal building? Guess how many German troops died in Russian battlefields compared to other allies.
this is why we should get them boys outa there! this kid was lucky, would you be watching this if he was not so lucky that day? Thanks for the war Bush
I'm happy the soldier is okay, however, I hope the Army studies this video and gets it through some troops heads that you must always be ready. Where was the gunner in the turret? Were were the other soldiers? Too often in Iraq I seen army convoys roll pass with no one in any of the turrets which made them easy targets. No aggressivness at all. If they fuck with a Marine or a special trained soldier, you would see us come out like ants and fuck there world up, immediately. Kodos to the soldiers because they did capture them, but they could've reacted much quicker and they made themselves extremely easy targets. kill hagi!
Couple of comments, thank God for Russian armaments and US technology. The AK-47 is pretty durable (much better in the mud than the old Vietnam M-16A1, which we no longer use, being on at least the A3), but not the most precise or effective when poorly maintained over years. Also, shows the superiority of US technology. As far as the "insurgent" argument, my bet is this is some foreign terrorist, on a "safari" and not acting out of nationalistic intentions. Hence the MAJOR difference between this and Vietnam. Please note, Iraq is by no means a "quagmire," merely the latest hot safari zone for fanatical islamo-fascists who have hijacked Islam. Better there than here. And despite the best attempts by the leftist mainstream media, morale is high! Much unlike Vietnam. Could it be because we have an all volunteer armed forces vice draftee's? Or could it be there is a huge disconnect between mainstream America (which is not located in New York City, LA, San Fran, or other major urban areas, look at the blue/red map by county before you bring an incredible argument) and CBS, NBC, ABC, and NPR? Hmmm.
It's hard to know where to begin. Some of this sounds like a bunch of old Vietnam vets (or those influenced by them) bitching about things haven't existed for years or never did in the "Nam. What I find amusing is the amount of the unknowing who think that Iraq is like Vietnam. Some differences: 1. M-16A1's been gone for years. 2. What the troops wear nowadays are bullet proof vests, not that Korean War era shit they had in Vietnam. 3. In Vietnam, the enemy, even the VC, were usually from the same country (North& South VN being the same), not some punk on a hunting trip, not wearing a uniform. Which reminds me - according to that Geneva Convention everyone always wants the US only to abide by, conducting operations out of uniform is "no go". It puts you outside international law. Read the GC. You can find it on line. Check out the signatories. Very interesting. Or at least watch a WW2 movie. 4. For Anders - even the North Vietnamese (Gen. Giap, for example) say that they were militarily defeated after Tet & Khe Sahn but they knew if they hung on long enough they could get the US media and anti-war types to persuade the US Government to leave. Read a book once in a while. 6. Somebody - you're right about one thing only: the Soviets did most of the heavy lifting in the European Theater of WW2. But the US & Britain helped a little. As for the Pacific Theater - "You only took out the Japanese (not to do a lot with WWII... ugh)" - well, I'm sure the SAS could have done that better too. Too bad there were only about a thousand of them or less. Read a book. Try "Commandos and Rangers of WW2" by James Hunt. Oh yeah, try proof reading. Otherwise you sound like Elmer Fudd, sputtering. 7. Despite what the MSM puts out, the level of combat in Iraq is much lower than VN. The US casualty rate is much lower. I said US because I want to point out that many of the Iraqi civilian casualties are a product of terrorists – yes, irregular guerilla forces trying to influence political decisions by harming non-combatants. The most discouraging part is that there are so many people who don't seem to realize that this is actually the opening phase of the war to keep the Wahabists Muslims from taking over the world and re-establishing the Caliphate. If you think democracy is bad, try living under that. You wouldn't even have a computer, much less be allowed to spout unfounded accusations at your central government on it. In fact, if you didn't get your contrary ass to mosque on Friday, you'd be whipped or one-handed. Wake up, children. Time is running out. It's hard to know where to begin. Some of this sounds like a bunch of old Vietnam vets (or those influenced by them) bitching about things haven't existed for years or never did in the "Nam. What I find disturbing is the amount of the unknowing who think that Iraq is like Vietnam. Some differences: 1. M-16A1's been gone for years. 2. What the troops wear nowadays are bullet proof vests, not that Korean War era shit they had in Vietnam. 3. In Vietnam, the enemy, even the VC, were usually from the same country (North& South VN being the same), not some punk on a hunting trip, not wearing a uniform. Which reminds me - according to that Geneva Convention everyone always wants the US only to abide by, conducting operations out of uniform is "no go". It puts you outside international law. Read the GC. You can find it on line. Check out the signatories. Very interesting. Or at least watch a WW2 movie. 4. For Anders - even the North Vietnamese (Gen. Giap, for example) say that they were militarily defeated after Tet & Khe Sahn but they knew if they hung on long enough they could get the US media and anti-war types to persuade the US Government to leave. Read a book once in a while. 6. Somebody - you're right about one thing only: the Soviets did most of the heavy lifting in the European Theater of WW2. But the US & Britain helped a little. As for the Pacific Theater - "You only took out the Japanese (not to do alot with WWII... ugh)" - well, I'm sure the SAS could have done that better too. Too bad there was only about a thousand of them or less. Read a book. Try "Commandos and Rangers of WW2" by James Hunt. Oh yeah, try proof reading also. It keeps you from sounding like Elmer Fudd sputtering. The most discouraging part is that there are so many people who don't seem to realize that this is actually the opening phase of the war to keep the Wahabists Muslims from taking over the world and re-establishing the Caliphate. If you think democracy is bad, try living under that. You wouldn't even have a computer, much less be allowed to spout unfounded accusations at your central government on it. Wake up, children. Time is running out.
you know, it interests me to read what you all think about this. That guy is a warrior. He got SHOT people, just be thankful the shooter didnt go for his head and that hes ok. what the guy above me said about the opening phase of a war is correct. I know you all probably think that Islam is a peacefull religion and that the "terrorists" are actually extremists. You couldnt be more wrong. The terrorists are a perfect example of a "good" muslim. The koran instructs all muslims to wage holy war on the entire earth untill the earth is completely islamic. want proof?? "Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.” thats just one verse out of hundreds. Islam is a religion of war created by a man who claimed to be a prophet but was nothing but a pirate, warmonger, thief, murderer etc. Jesus Christ is the only person that can bring you salvation, not dying in a holy war....
I am proud to see that people are supportive of pfc. Tschiderer. Steve is a childhood buddy of mine from back home as well as a fellow graduate from the same high school. When I learned of the incident that occurred, I contacted him and discussed the issue in great detail. CNN covered the story this evening and interviewed his parents. I noticed that some people were questioning the round NOT going through his flack jacket. The sniper was 75 meters away and the round actually grazed his thumb causing the bullet to hit his vest at an angle. “Allah Akbar,” I don’t care what language you say it in, it’s true, God is Good. I’m not a pious guy, but when I think about this story, I have to agree, God is good. It’s common to hear all the sad stories, but for Steve’s friends and family to be blessed with a story of this nature is incredible. I wish pfc. Tschiderer and all American soldiers great health and courage to do their jobs and return home safely.
Crush the infidel Islamists who spread terror with fire and weapons. They have to be crushed or they will crush us. May God assist us in the great Crusade agaisnt tyrrany and oppression they have waiting for whats left of Christian civilization. May we fight back or be enslaved!
the force is strong in him
Lotsa antiBush sentiment at play here. Look, if you hate the US, you can drop dead for all I care--and the sooner the better. Read Bill W's "Sanctuary" at ejectejecteject.com to understand why these slimeballs are called terrorists. And if that doesn't convince you, then you must think Erik Rudolph was justified or you're a two-faced lying sack of [Michael Moore]. That soldier was not "lucky". He was prepared. His leadership was prepared. And he is an example of the oft-ignored fact that we are winning. Afghanistan is free. Iraq is free. And we're helping them train the people they need to stay that way. And, in a relatively short time, the people who lied about Bush are going to need to eat crow publicly. We'll make certain of it. This won't taste good to the Left...
The soldier not only got up, his unit returned fire (including turret gun on longer video), chased the wounded sniper and caught him. Then the soldier (a medic) treated the sniper who had shot him.
You naysayers are all punks. Yep, I said it. Get off your whining asses and meet me over here. If you survive a day outside the wire of the FOB then I'll kick the crap out of you when you get back. And if you're too old to join, try a civilian security job. They are available. Or you could work for KBR, like the many other heroes here helping us out. Until then, put your keyboard away.
Regarding heavy-lifting and the Russians, I don't think that somebody@basher.com remembers the North Atlantic fleet that was supplying Russia and a little known invasion called "D-Day". The SAS was formed during Africa campaign, so I am not sure where you thought that they did all of the lifting for the Rangers, The Devil's Brigade, Marines, SOS and Commandos. The "a-bombs" did not kill an unnecessary number of people, otherwise the generals and the Emperor would have quit after the first one....duh! The Russians were allowed in first by the Allies....which you mind remember the Patton saying about "making some other poor dumb bastard die for their country". Regarding the rifle that he had, it was an M4 carbine. Most of the guys that I talked to whilst over in Kuwait that would visit my Army boat loved their M4's and the Picanniny Rail system. Regarding fighting in our own country, we are just helping the "Religion of Peace" clean its own house.
For those people who are ripping on Bush, saying he thinks the soldiers are expenable, i have a question for you. On September 11th, when you saw thousands of americans killed and injured did you think of their lives expendable? Because i know i didnt and Bush didnt and now America is fighting a war to prevent future attacks on America and all you can say is that Bush is a bad president and those dumbass snipers arent terrorists? thats funny because i consider terrorists to be someone fighting against a the free world supporting oppresion. But obviously you are too stupid to see that and and continue to bitch because gas prices are up?!? Well im sorry but i think its worth the extra cash to keep my family safe. So before you start posting dumbass comments think about it first you libral asshats.
BUSH WAS IN AIRFORCE PPL AND FOR U PPL WHO SAY THEY ARENT TERRORISTS DAM U TO HELL THEY ARE AND U HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL URSELVES AMERICANS,DO NOT ATTACK AT BUSH...WHAT ABOUT PRES CLINTON? HAVING AN AFFAIR IN THE OFFICE!! AND HAS ANY1 SEEN THE MOVIE BLACK HAWK DOWN? THAT IS THE FAULT OF CLINTON AS WELL
Shows them right. Never shot someone whose apart of the greatest military in the world. Especially when they have the most hi-tech equipment and body armor on the market. Everyone can learn from this. Never attack America;)
Hello all, I'll leave any and all of my own political beliefs out of this, as I don't think that's what the posting of this video was intended to invoke. I'm ex US Army 11B, so I am extremely happy to see this 19D (I'm guessing 19D, as the previously posted e-mail to Point Blank states the PFC is from a Cav unit) is alive because of his armor. By the way, it's not a "flak jacket" he's wearing, the IBA (Interceptor Body Armor) he's wearing is a Level IIIA soft armor vest and the SAPI (Small Arms Protective Inserts) plates that it holds are what actually stopped the round. The Level III SAPI actually issued with the IBA can stop up to a .308 AP round, and if the information is correct he was shot with a 7.62R from a Dragnouv. The IBA and SPEAR armor systems in use in-theatre are saving lots of lives, and it's amazing to actually see it in action. Once again, my congradulations go out to this soldier, and his family. I'd also like to thank Point Blank, as well, for creating the armor that saves so many of our soldier's lives in combat zones.
I never get to see stuff like this state side. Why can't we see this on the evening news? I just remember seing our guys get cut to ribbons in Viet Nam by charlie every night on TV after dinner. Thank GOD for the guy's body armor, now if they could just find a way to deal more effectively with the IED's. My GOD Bless all of you BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN who are putting your lives on the line as I send this from the comfort and security of my home in the USA. You are all heroes! .......dale straw
Does anyone know where the long version of the video is on the net? Thanks,
Blows my mind to see the criticism of Gitmo from the same nipples that state that they "support the troops". Give me a break! There is more religious freedom at Gitmo than present elsewhere in the U.S., and the residents are treated far better than they deserve or are entitled to be! These are not POW's people. They are captured terrorists, and if you think that they are treated poorly, I suggest you adopt one!
"Now,now folks, remember Sib is a "nuanced" "thinker", a "progressive"...and a completely ignorant fool. But it is nice to see the Left drop their phony "We support the Troops" line, and acknowledge they prefer to see US troops dead and the terrorists, excuse me, "insurgents" win. The same noble "insurgents" who do things like shoot up a bus and kill several woman whose sin was doing our laundry at a US base. Sib no doubt considers himself morally superior to the posters here and the soldiers in Iraq. However Sib is a moral coward unwilling to call the bad guys what they are because that would be too "simplistic". The Left has been very good at hiding their lack of character beneath a veneer of high sounding rhetoric. Oh and before any moonbats start the "chickhawk" BS I am on my second tour here in Iraq with the TXANG. So yeah, I am glad the US soldier was alright and that we nailed the shooters. One final word to Sib, crawl back under your rock." Posted by KJB43 (KJB43@military.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:05:19 PDT "Dude, you're the fanatic. You're just like the terrorists we're fighting, in that you're unwilling/unable to see past your tunnel vission, black and white perception of USA All the Way vs. Sand Nigger Jihadis. You seem incapable of seeing moral absolutism as anything other than "good," and open-mindedness and reason as anything other than "cowardice." You're putting words in the guy's mouth. Liberals in the U.S. have nothing against the soldiers, nor sympathy for car bombers. Who we have a bone to pick with are the real moral cowards - men like George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheyney - men who have never seen a battle in their life, and yet rush to war as their first alternative. What we are against is a war based on deception (found those WMD's, yet) that, as it is being currently waged, is going to plunge Iraq into civil war and bankrupt us. So you're stationed in Iraq? My hat goes off to you; it takes balls to operate in a combat zone. However, my admiration for you stops right there. Just as no one can claim superiority over a soldier, you're no better than I am, chump. Regardless of where you're stationed. " Posted by Anders (polakinthegreatnorthwest@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:29:22 PDT Great post KJB43, and thanks for serving. I was in the Army, my battle buddy in basic has done 2 tours in Iraq and one in Afg...I shoulda too, but was discharged *different story*.... Funny how the guy who responded to you says you put words in other peoples mouths, but I know this Sib *short for Siblesz on other forums, which is how I got routed here* and hes actually said "i'd rather the GI die than the insurgent/terrorist/jihadist" The truth DOES come out with you people. You can hide it, and like minded fools will help throw up smokescreens to defend you, but as with so many things, once the whole picture is known the truth *and there is only ONE truth my friends, not "truth is relative" BS* always comes out. Fact is, you people hope a whole division gets wiped out so that Bush looks bad, and you really could care less about our service people. And you don't bother to really understand the reasons for the war, nor the enemy we are fighting. Bush is our commander in chief, and you libs can lie to yourself that its the media *ha yea right, you mean the lib media?* which makes it look like the soldiers are his stupid pawns, but you don't get it. He IS our commander, and he had the stones to try to actually get the job done and not just pretend the sky wasn't falling.
"Re: Your Sniper Video: It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion. Thanks to the BBC, not the U.S. media, it was exposed as a fraud- a staged rescue with faked resistance. If it's not a fake, it could be the guy had a bullet-proof vest on; I'd bet on it because there's no other way, if he was hit, no way to tell for sure from that video, he could have gotten back up. Ever notice how our troops look (appropriately?) like the storm troopers from Star Wars? Anyway, assuming it's authentic. What's the news value?" Jack Wasn't staged fool, they expected alot heavier resistance as the hospital had warned of a heavier presence, and the enemy had been using such buildings frequently. The terrorists actually cleared out before the raid took place, and yes it was filmed, and yes *OMG!* you saw Navy seals and Rangers in on the rescue because they didn't know how hot the OPFOR would be.
Were the snipers in uniform? If not in uniform they are not soldiers. Are the snipers sent by a government? Are they claimed by any government as that government’s soldiers? If not they are not soldiers. If they are not soldiers, what are they? The answer is they are terrorists. Just because they target soldiers doesn’t mean they are not terrorists. The concept of legitimacy can be applied to almost anything, even to killing. Asking us to support only those leaders that have a military background or combat experience is like asking us not to dial 911 because the mayor was never in the police force.
how many insurgents do you know of that will provide medical attention to a wounded US soldier, instead of trying to hack their f...ing head off? CNN showed the entire tape,not just this clip.. and interviewed mom, dad and da medic.. lots more detail at this address http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2005/07/19/cho.iraq.medic.sniper.cnn
Those fuckers cant hide forever. As long as we are over there they will constantly be in "COWARD" mode.
I can no longer look at a U.S. soldier without tearing up! Praise God for these guys; they are doing their job and doing it well! As a law enforcement officer, I often tell people that they just can't understand the job unless they have done it. Well, same applies to our U.S. soldiers. Most of us don't have a clue, yet we will sit back and make all or our ignorant little comments behind the safety of our computer screens! "Walk a mile in their shoes" and I guarantee you will change your mind! Forget the politics and just start supporting the men and women that are making the ultimate sacrifice!
This is for the wingnut who said the The real moral cowards are men like George Bush Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney Men who have never seen action Or some thing to this effect. I say to you, Thank G*d our parents and grandparents did not have your attitude, or we would all be eating sushi and saurkraut and speaking Japanese. ( I realize if you live in California, you probably are eating sushi right no.) Lets look at Billy Clinton, draft dodger, sent men and women into harms way to fight wars that we had no bussiness being in. And after the first attack on the WTC and attacks on our embassys he ( Clinton) said he would catch the people responsible. I do not recall him ever even trying to attemt this, Oh, the was the bombing of the aspirin factory in india I believe. Every time I see someone in millitary uniform or something that signifies they were in or are military I make it a point to go to them and thank them for serving our country. I do not agree with everything Bush does, but I do agree with him in going after these cowards who use G*d as an excusse to kill. You have heard of the phrase "sleeping with the enemy" well we are working, living and sleeping with them. It's time to wake up and smell the Camle dung.
As a proud american im glad that our man survived that attack from that douchebag chicken sh** a**hole.
Photographs from the persian gulf I want too see are the orher saddam so called Imposter photos they used too be on google Images and I cant find any the still lif whould be just fine even there custody photo graphs' too:www)
hehe cool video
" Now, war ended, all i am left with are simple, unprofound scraps of truth.Men die. Fear hurts and humiliates. It is hard to be brave. It is hard to know what bravery is. Dead human beings are heavy and awkward to carry, things smell different in Iraq, soldiers are dreamers, drill seargents are boors,some men thought that war was proper and others didnt and most didnt care.IS that the stuff for morality lesson, even for a theme? Do dreams offer lesson? Do nightmares have themes?Do we awaken and analyze them and live our lives and advice others as a result?Can a foot soldier teach anything important about war, merely for having been there ?. He can tell war stories." this was in an email froma soldier look i was told this am iraqi civi that our the troops are killing for fun :( [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/2284/warpics2035jr.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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i have clips and pics of people being killed all over the place :( .isnt this wrong to send these to me ???
it's good to see one of ours get back up again. i know a guy who had to carry 7 of his dead friends out of a crashed chinook, they didn't get back up. this is cause for celebration.
This is futher proof that the war is unjust in Iraq. The Yanks and Brits have no right or support to be there. Any fool with half a brain knows that you cant go into another mans country and fight him on his own turf. Vietnam, N. Ireland, Iraq, and Afghanastan are just some examples of failure by foreign occupation troops. Get out, stay out, and sort your own problems out America and Britain.
agreed with withheld, the brits got their concenquences already (deadly bombings) and if US doesnt retreat soon, whoahohohoho, u know what i mean
think u meant agreed with John! anyways, i also agree with John and also "Monkeyfighter" PS: u all should watch Farenhite 911
ok...after watching the clip like about 12 times, the allah akbar thing is starting to get really anoying
NO A LA GUERRA. HAZ EL AMOR. NO TO WAR. MAKE LOVE.
That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. We will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane. Funny stuff. I'll be back...
JUST A NOTE. Whatever asshole is posting giving MY journal as a link isn't me. LOSER.
Hey Brad, What do you know about being a man?? That soldier could kick the crap out of you with half his brain tied behind his back. It is not bieng a wimp (simple words from your simple mind.) to have a tank behind you, it's good common sense you maggott.
Hey Jeff, Watch who leaves Iraq with their tails behind their backs. It is good common sense not to come to another persons country and think you own it. As an ex-marine I may know a little bit more about being involved in foreign entaglements than you. When one is wrong, one is wrong. Simple.
You know why I'm pissed? Because my Father's friend, who served with him in Vietnam. Has been recalled to service, as a "voluteer" against his will. He is over there risking his life so that we can drive our outdated, gas guzzulling SUVs and Hummers and ignore the real problems of the world that cause wars. Like Hunger, and basic needs not being met. Any one of you "conservatives" ever fight in a war you didn't sign up for?! Any one of you "liberals" ever feed a man you don't know or never will know? Or is helping the bum on the street not worth your time. Geez, lets take care of our problems at home and then address the real problems of the world. If we weren't the worlds policemen, we wouldn't have to worry about Nukes coming our way. If we weren't an Empire trying to disguise ourselves as a democracy, our sons would not be dying in IRAQ. Either way, I think (and yes I know I'm a hipped A-HOLE =) ) we just need to start loving each other, differing opinions and all
buck fush!
why are you demeaning people on their political beleifs. There is no such thing as a true moderate, your either Liberal or Conservative
That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people.
Well, I have a few things to say to the ignorant people over here, and just to clarify things for the smarter ones too. I will first tupe the quote, then type me: and say what I think about it... what he really needed to do was jump up and tell them dumb fucks that he was in fact Allah himself. After that he should have told them to kill themselves or he would condemn them to hell me: so....if my religion woudnt stop me, i would have talked back to this guy about a good few things about HIS religion... they speak of intolerance.... US should've invaded Saudi Arabia, its not like the Arab people, the Persians and Turks just LOVE the Saudi royal family. Saudi Arabia is even NAMED after them. Invade and kill the royal family, and people will be happy. They're dictators and cruel rulers, who DO fund terrorist organizations. me: I wish people wound provide sufficient evidence about stuff instead of speaking shit all the time.... I know you all probably think that Islam is a peacefull religion and that the "terrorists" are actually extremists. You couldnt be more wrong. The terrorists are a perfect example of a "good" muslim. The koran instructs all muslims to wage holy war on the entire earth untill the earth is completely islamic. want proof?? "Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.” thats just one verse out of hundreds. Islam is a religion of war created by a man who claimed to be a prophet but was nothing but a pirate, warmonger, thief, murderer etc. Jesus Christ is the only person that can bring you salvation, not dying in a holy war.... me: jerk off in my opinion... i got 3 translation of that verse off the net.... YUSUFALI: Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). PICKTHAL: And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. SHAKIR: And let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape. You know, it digusts me to know that there are still some people here that support these ideas. Some peopel resist education....
Quote -my response This is futher proof that the war is unjust in Iraq. The Yanks and Brits have no right or support to be there. Any fool with half a brain knows that you cant go into another mans country and fight him on his own turf. Vietnam, N. Ireland, Iraq, and Afghanastan are just some examples of failure by foreign occupation troops. Get out, stay out, and sort your own problems out America and Britain. -really? I was under the impression that the insurgents weren't from Iraq either... agreed with withheld, the brits got their concenquences already (deadly bombings) and if US doesnt retreat soon, whoahohohoho, u know what i mean -the Iraqi children also got their bombing. Spain who doesn't have any troops in Iraq got their bombing. Notice a pattern? Innocents being bombed? Yeah, it's called terrorism. Hey Jeff, Watch who leaves Iraq with their tails behind their backs. It is good common sense not to come to another persons country and think you own it. As an ex-marine I may know a little bit more about being involved in foreign entaglements than you. When one is wrong, one is wrong. Simple. -thank you for your service. I'm sure the Iraqi citizens thank you for your service. As for foreign entanglements, this is a world issue. That's why we have allies all over the world helping out. You know why I'm pissed? Because my Father's friend, who served with him in Vietnam. Has been recalled to service, as a "voluteer" against his will. He is over there risking his life so that we can drive our outdated, gas guzzulling SUVs and Hummers and ignore the real problems of the world that cause wars. Like Hunger, and basic needs not being met. Any one of you "conservatives" ever fight in a war you didn't sign up for?! Any one of you "liberals" ever feed a man you don't know or never will know? Or is helping the bum on the street not worth your time. Geez, lets take care of our problems at home and then address the real problems of the world. If we weren't the worlds policemen, we wouldn't have to worry about Nukes coming our way. If we weren't an Empire trying to disguise ourselves as a democracy, our sons would not be dying in IRAQ. Either way, I think (and yes I know I'm a hipped A-HOLE =) ) we just need to start loving each other, differing opinions and all -you know why he got called to service? Probably because he was in the Reserve. If not, I don't know what to say, but I doubt he was picked up off the street and carried off to Iraq. WE need to start loving each other for our differences? I thought it was the terrorists who were killing everybody who didn't agree with them. But wait, they kill Muslims too. They kill everybody! Let's give them a nice warm hug. buck fush! -original. wow. I'm sure you'd like to. That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people. -now that's just down right disrespectful. Bush and his supporters are ignorant and scared? That's why they responded strongly to 9/11 to make us safer? What would you have said if they did nothing but make empty promises? Nothing I guess, as long as they're a Democrat. On a personal note, go upgrade your heart. They're selling ones much better than yours cheap on Death Row. Above guy, too long to quote. -Good points, those were poor arguments. Quote 1: I think the guy was trying to be funny. Quote 2: Sufficient evidence should always be provided. http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/saudi_arabia.htm Quote 3: I have had a roommate who is Muslim. He's a nice guy. The terrorists are not nice people. It takes cold blood to blow yourself up in the midst of children.
Well that doesn't look good at all. How does this web page handle Enters... it looks like one continuous lump lol
2nd Try, I apologize for taking up so much room ***Quote ---my response ***This is futher proof that the war is unjust in Iraq. The Yanks and Brits have no right or support to be there. Any fool with half a brain knows that you cant go into another mans country and fight him on his own turf. Vietnam, N. Ireland, Iraq, and Afghanastan are just some examples of failure by foreign occupation troops. Get out, stay out, and sort your own problems out America and Britain. ---Really? I was under the impression that the insurgents weren't from Iraq either... ***agreed with withheld, the brits got their concenquences already (deadly bombings) and if US doesnt retreat soon, whoahohohoho, u know what i mean ---The Iraqi children also got their bombing. Spain who doesn't have any troops in Iraq got their bombing. Notice a pattern? Innocents being bombed? Yeah, it's called terrorism. ***Hey Jeff, Watch who leaves Iraq with their tails behind their backs. It is good common sense not to come to another persons country and think you own it. As an ex-marine I may know a little bit more about being involved in foreign entaglements than you. When one is wrong, one is wrong. Simple. ---Thank you for your service. I'm sure the Iraqi citizens thank you for your service. As for foreign entanglements, this is a world issue. That's why we have allies all over the world helping out. ***You know why I'm pissed? Because my Father's friend, who served with him in Vietnam. Has been recalled to service, as a "voluteer" against his will. He is over there risking his life so that we can drive our outdated, gas guzzulling SUVs and Hummers and ignore the real problems of the world that cause wars. Like Hunger, and basic needs not being met. Any one of you "conservatives" ever fight in a war you didn't sign up for?! Any one of you "liberals" ever feed a man you don't know or never will know? Or is helping the bum on the street not worth your time. Geez, lets take care of our problems at home and then address the real problems of the world. If we weren't the worlds policemen, we wouldn't have to worry about Nukes coming our way. If we weren't an Empire trying to disguise ourselves as a democracy, our sons would not be dying in IRAQ. Either way, I think (and yes I know I'm a hipped A-HOLE =) ) we just need to start loving each other, differing opinions and all ---You know why he probably got called to service? Probably because he was in the Reserve. If not, I don't know what to say, but I doubt he was picked up off the street and carried off to Iraq. WE need to start loving each other for our differences? I thought it was the terrorists who were killing everybody who didn't agree with them. But wait, they kill Muslims too. They kill everybody! Let's give them a nice warm hug. ***buck fush! ---Original. wow. I'm sure you'd like to. ***That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people. ---Now that's just down right disrespectful. Bush and his supporters are ignorant and scared? That's why they responded strongly to 9/11 to make us safer? What would you have said if they did nothing but make empty promises? Nothing I guess, as long as they're a Democrat. On a personal note, go upgrade your heart. They're selling ones much better than yours cheap on Death Row. ***Above guy, too long to quote. ---Good points, those were poor arguments. Quote 1: I think the guy was trying to be funny. Quote 2: Sufficient evidence should always be provided. http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/saudi_arabia.htm Quote 3: I have had a roommate who is Muslim. He's a nice guy. The terrorists are not nice people. It takes cold blood to blow yourself up in the midst of children.
Well Eric is not the brightest guy here. Iraq and its people have never, repeat never, done anything to America. America has killed more innocent children with our bombs dropped from a cowardly 10,000 feet then any so called terrorist. Hey Eric, who is breaking down peoples doors all across Iraq and terrorizing Iraqi families? Have you ever had someone break into your home who does not speak English and point a gun at your family? You should see the fear in people eyes, as I did in Somalia when we broke down peoples doors. You are very ignorant and do not know a thing about the terror America causes because of people like you. This guy is a Christian extremist just like the Muslim extremists. He justifies killing the same as these others do. Very naive and ignorant. America will not last with ignorance like this guy. He will be the downfall of America as the world tires of Americas arrogance and ignorance.
Oh, you mean our precision-guided bombs capable of hitting within a few yards of a target. A military target purposefully located in a civilian area? That kind of bomb? Or are you talking about the bombs strapped to an old car and blown up among policemen and civilians? Is it less cowardly to drop a bomb from 0.0 feet? I don't appreciate your insults, but I have nothing to prove to you. And how are we terrorizing Iraqi citizens any more than Saddam Hussein? I am not going to say I completely understand what the feelings are of the Iraqi families. I would be scared out of my wits. I wouldn't be so afraid of this non-English speaking gun-toter if my government asked him to be there, though. As for Somalia, that was/is an entirely different scenario. All I have to say about American terror, is what about the terror caused by car bombs? Suicide planes? Bombs in subways? Bombs strapped to peoples' backs? Assassinations? Abductions? Beheadings? What is going on in Iraq, is a nationless terrorist group fighting in Iraq (whose ranks do include a small minority of Iraqis) who say that Iraqis have no right to freedom. My point is, we would not be there if it were not for these fighters. Allow me to make a comparison; Nazi Germany invades France. We go to liberate France. Nazi Germany says "you have no right to." France says "yes, we want to be free." American government says "ok, we'll help you." Liberals say "no, sorry, we don't want foreign entanglements." There were also Frenchmen who helped the Nazis (it was called Vichy France). Yet very few people claim it was wrong to liberate France. Its amazing how fast countries like France forget the price of freedom. I am a Christian; I won't lie about it or cover it up. I'm not going to force people to be Christian or kill everyone who isn't a Christian. I don't see any correlation between myself and them. The only time killing is justified is to prevent the victim (I can't believe I'm using that word to describe a terrorist) from killing more people and civilians. America is arrogant and ignorant? Is that why Britain is on our side as well? Is that why the world is fighting terrorism? What should we do, let the terrorists roam free? Let them do whatever they want? Let's see, what do they want...to kill all the infidels and rule the world. That's been tried before. It's called Hitler wants to kill all the Jews and rule the world. And you know what preceeded Hitler? Appeasement. The only difference is the terrorists are smarter; they are playing off your sympathies and fighting using guerilla tactics. What will be the downfall of America is: our leaders are stupid, they send our soldiers off to die for nothing, they don't have a clue. War is always a terrible, terrible thing. But what happens if we don't go to war? People die anyway. Civilians die. And that's why the US going to war is necessary. Not for us, for those children and families who sit scared in their homes, trying to suvive. We are fighting for their freedom. Iraq is trying to get its government on its feet. The terrorists want us gone? Leave us alone and we'll finish up and leave. That's not the terrorists' objective. Their objective is to destroy the freedom of Iraqis. What right do they have to say that the Iraqi people do not deserve the freedom to dress how they want, which is guaranteed to us, and to you Brad, by the implications of the First Amendment. Are we no longer dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal? Or is that imposing our values on the rest of the world. That's right; we're so bad. The Iraqi citizens don't want freedom. We are so pushy. The difference between me and you is that your morals are relative. You call me ignorant? I call you heartless. I'm too busy for more arguing (I hate getting sucked into these things). Later.
Eric is still showing his ignorance. Iraq never, repeat never, had a suicide bombing or Car bombing before we invaded their country. The hell that is going on is the result of our actions and yes, America is responsible for this. There were not any terrorists in Iraq until we invaded, plain fact. Again, Iraq has never done anything to America. America has invaded and killed more people in other countries than any other country since WWII. Fact.Check it! America keeps track of other governments killing people but refuses to keep track of the civillians we kill. Fact. There is no comparison between Iraq and Germany. Iraq is not invading other countries. Hell, Iraq had no military left after Persion Gulf war, not a single fighter jet and maybe a 20-30 tanks. In fact, America keeps dictators in power in the Middle East: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iraq(the CIA helped Sadamn Husein kill the former president of Iraq), Egypt, Iran(we installed the Shah before they had a revolution to get rid of him). Erics stupidity shows again, the Iraqis can dress how they want and Iraqi women had the most freesom in the Middle East. They could drive, dress the way they want, hold government positions, ect..Sadamn was not a religious person, that is why Bin Laden called for his overthrow. You are very ignorant Eric. A democracy full of ignorance is dangerous. And to top is off, Eric thinks our bombs do not kill civillians, did you know that we targeted Iraqs Electricity, sewage, economic centers, telephone companies, water companies, ect.. These are all military targets that you destroy when invading another country. All civillian employed. Then we turn around and give contracts to American companies to fix the damage. Also, your ignorance shows yet again, very few bombs are smart bombs and they destroy the target plus homes around the target. Freedom at the end of anothers gun is not freedom, you idiot, it is occupation. They want freedom from us!! America has prevented freedom in the Middle East by installing dictators again and again. Maybe France should invade America so that our women are free and do not have to wear tops on the beach, or maybe Germany should invade so that our children can drink beer legally, or maybe Israel should invade so that we can have legalized prostitution, ect.. Eric, you are very ignorant and that will be the downfall of America. In fact, most of the world is against us being in Iraq, including both of our neighbors and all of Iraqs neighbors. You are truly ignorant.
Continuation of Erics ignorance. Did you know that Sadamn Hussein protected religious freedom in Iraq, there are Christian churches and Jewish churches in Iraq. You are truly ignorant if you did not know this.
That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people.
Does allah akbar mean "I am such a fucking idiot" or "Oh mi god I just shit in the toilet?
Hey, I think that allah akbar means "damn, the shit just hit the fan." Holy fuck, I hate these goddamn motherfuckers, what with their damn crazy rantin and all. I think they should take their allah and shove him up their asses. Sick fuckers.
Damn, Marine I agree with you. I am sick of these shitty assholes fuckin our soldiers at night and blowin up the U.S. during th day. They oughtta be blown to crap. That should teach em a good lesson bout messin with the U.S. Iraqi motherfuckers.
I agree. Lets nuke em all. If I ever meet a terrist, this is what I gonna say: This land is my land, this land ain't yer land, I got a shotgun, and u don't fucking got one, if you don't get off, I'll blow yer ass off, this land was made fer me not you! Fuckin shitheads!
Anyone who hates Bush is a poo poo head. If you hate the war against terrisom, then you are a fucking shitbomb waitin for it's next... What was i gonna say? Oh yeah, fuck you liberals! Shove your Iraqi too toos up youse asses.
Those fucking terrorists were probably saying this: Terrorist- Damn, that was a fucking good shot. I got the U.S. fucker! What the fuck. Oh mi god, oh mi god. He got up! Ohhhhhh shiiittt. Man, I just crapped my pants. Wheres a good Kleenex when you need one. Other Terrorist- FNG! (fucking new guy) T no. 1- I am gonna killlll you, you fucking Army shitboy. Now, where's that damn AK 47?
Iraqi motherfucker shootin at my boys. Man am I gonna waste his ass if I ever see im. Where's that M1-D Garand sniper rifle I had?
Maybe next time the fuckers should use a grenade launcher on their asses.
Hey jessica, can I have them red bras you got in your second droor? After I waste yer pretty pink pussy I think you won't be needing them. Liberal clit bitch.
I think allah akhbar means: "Ohhhhh mannn, I got dirhhea bad this time." Ooh, I can feel it coming out of my underwear. Damn, but these panties just aint my size.
Actually, allah akhbar means: Holy fuck, the guy just got the fuck up! Man, I thought I wasted his ass dead to rights! Oooh, whats that smell. Oh fuck, man, did you shit your pants? Oh mann, the stench.
Non-Bush supporters ain't welcome here. Neither are you damn libbies, especially you jessica. By the way, you wouldn't happen to have pink bras would you?
Look at the coward Bush and his supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
jackandjack69@yahoo.com .. you will die in hell with Osama ok
Why Americans Are Funny: 1. They are overweight and need a tank to carry them around 2. They can only speak one language, as they are ingnorant and trail the world in academics 3. They cannot bear to see a casket on their TV, as Bush is a coward and knows Americans will cry 4. They go to other countries and get run out as they miss their McDonalds and Dairy Queen. 5. Even their parents get divorced as they cannot stand each other or their children. 6. The whole world laughs whenever their president opens his mouth as he cannot even speak one language. 7. Their religion is full of homosexual preists. 8. Their president could not even hack the National Guard because he was a drunk. 9. Their military are Republicans until they get out and then because they are to stupid they need a government job or a Union job and turn Democrat so they will be taken care of. 10. Their women are fatter then the men and need makeup to cover their pasty white skin.
Allahu Akbar! an awsom vidoe of an american homo "soldier" after taking a direct hit cowering behind his vehicle searching for a refuge, too bad you scum of the earth americans, you have no where to hide. loool
Fuck all ya american Bastards, u know ur all goin 2 hell! Fuck yall! ALLAHU AKBAR!
Why can't we all get along and fuck each other in the ass. It hurt less and it's more fun. We are the world, we are the children...
You should post these videos to www.revver.com and make some money off of them.. I just found it.. it is cool.
Gun and no uniform fighting for homeland = guerilla warfare. Going out and shooting and/or bombing civilians = terrorism. Nuke them? Not a reasonable solution. Rather send in the tanks and helicopters, conventional bombers and beat the shit out of every place where some one shot at an american or coalition soldier. Simple. You protect guerillas you are with them. Shooting in the town in the evening, town wiped out in the morning. This will make them think twice before they hide them or help them. Civilized armies are better equipped, better trained so they can deal with faithful Allah followers. A good muslim is converted muslim or a dead one.
Allah Akbar means: Allah, you fucked me again. This soldier is alive and he will send me to see profet Mohhamed as soon as he finds me. Oh Allah, I will convert to Buddhism because you left me hanging, motherfucker.
Look at the coward Bush and his hypnotized war mongering supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words and be scared. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
Yeah..hide in the USA...along with about 12 million people from around the rest of the world who come here for peace from muslim terror. We aim to send as many of the Muslim martyrs to Allah as possible. And, it is way too bad we cant send their useful idiot supporters along with em...but, unfortuantely, the USA does not work that way...but damn well we should. Go ahead...hate America...your turn will come soon enough and you will be running to the nearest "America this way" sign.
Gawd, I'm not american, I'm spanish, but if I saw you say that in front of me I'd still beat the hell out of you. I speak 3 languages(Spanish, English and German-And I'm being modest not counting my french) I'm just 17, but I don't really regard it as an intelligence proof, and I know what I'm talking about here. (But to be honest I do consider you an idiot) If you think I'm one of those christian radicalists from my country I'll also tell you I've been atheist since I was 10, and I was actually educated christian. But in contrast with some of the idiots here I have a mind of my own. Also, some americans might be overweight, but I'm sure any US military would kick your ass, so show some respect to this man. You most likely wont ever know what to be in a conflict such Iraq now. You probably wont ever know what it is like to be waken up by the sound of mortar fire instead of your alarm clock. So next time you want to open your mouth and unleash your nonsense about any veteran think that you didn't and never will walk a mile in his boots. I wont even check to see what you answered because I simply don't give a toss about stupid brats like you. PS: Whoever thinks that the people fucking up Iraq now can be called insurgents are simply wrong. Insurgents were people such as the Spanish when Napoleon invaded them, like some French when Hitler conquered their country and people who raised against the british in Bunker Hill. An insurgent doesn't fuck up his country and kill his own people. An insurgent wouldn't rise against his country's new police force. An insurgent doesn't want anarchy in his country. And an insurgent doesn't create militia groups that take after Al-quaeda Only the demented minds of terrorist can do such things.
I'm only answering for the insulting e-mail you sent me. Which shows you have shit knowing of history too. You're the idiot here. I hope you didn't refer to me as a USA Bush supporter, I think you didn't but you never know what idiots mean. First I dont support Bush, but I support the Iraq war, and I support the soldiers who helped in taking Saddam out. And I'm not alone here, in fact the mayority of the Iraqui people are with me, lets be honest, they know more about their country than you do or me. And your comments here against these people themselves are a proof of what you really are: an idiot. You go step with people who are much more sick than what you claim the US is. If you want footage that proves this:http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/ just check the "KNOW YOUR ENEMY SECTION" and watch if you can. PS: What super country do you come from?
Look at the coward Bush and his supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
usa pig uk pig white dirty pig shit fucking 3rdanimal country fuck all white bitch my dog cock beat laura bush face hahahha
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A SVD Dragunov against the soldier ... and the soldier dies.... maybe a P90 can do the work..but the NEATO ammo is hard to find.
fuck u us soldiers. take that fucker. us is cowards. they just depend on their air support, but all the army is chickens
For all that hate Americans and stuff like that. Just look at it from a human being point of view. No NATIONALITY NO RACE. No one should die (or nearly die like that). Imagine it was a family member. GOd protect all out there. War is unkind. JUST MY OPINION
Look at the coward Bush and his supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
how dare u say something like that why dont u go out there and fight instead of bad mouthing Bush and his supporters and america isnt the only one out there right now there is a whole bunch of others over there.
andrew is dumb. invade another country who has never done anything to USA and kill them. you are dumb and ignorant. As a former marine I have been in combat, have you? Bush is an idiot who does not read books or know anything about the world. 98% of killers over there are Americans. How dare you say it is right to invade another country and kill and destroy thier society when they have done nothing. You are evil and ignorant. must be christian, they cannot help killing others.
yes i have actually been in combat i am a marine sniper. I have seen what they have done to people and you know what it is not preety. Ok if we dont go over there are just going to come over here and bomb us again so tell me do you think it is right for them to bomb us again.
that damn soldier is my fucking hero now
That video was fucking incredible! I was in the military for 6 years and when you train over and over again you react like it is instinct. I bet tose towel heads shit their dirty nightshirts when they saw him get back up. You talk about all this war has done is make more terrorists, we will kill them too. Bring it on motherfuckers! Religion of peace my ass. These people are complete fucking idiots. They want you you to respect their religion (ISLAM translates DIRECTLY into SUBMISSION) but they will kill you if you do not convert or submit. They are burning buildings because someone printed a cartoon? I say print more fucking cartoons and piss em all off. The muslims can not get along with anybody! They are lucky we are there saving their sorry asses. I do believe that the majority of them want peace and a fair chance at a real life. To meet that gaol AND secure our freedom we need to get rid of the fucking fanatics.
hey gawd: fuck you. I would go over there and fight is I could. I could not get back in due to my age and I was upset about that. I told the recruiter I wanted the fast track to Iraq to fight. Would you go over and fight if you could. The reason you can have your fucked up viewpoint is that me and all the other veterans and the soldiers on the ground are fighting and/or have fought defending our freedom.
Hey Robert. Sorry to say I would be happy to go over and fight on the side of the Iraqis/Insurgents. Just dont know the language and they would most likely not want my help as my country just screwed theirs up. I am a former Marine and have been in combat. When USA attacks another country for illegal and aggresive reasons, I do not become blind to patriotism but realize that the USA is committing a crime and should be beaten. Iraq has nothing to do with my freedom, hell they did not even have an airforce or tanks, we took that out 15 years ago. Bush is taking more freedoms from you then any other person in this world, under a guise that you are to stupid to see. You are an ignorant sheep who follows when told to. A fearful and scared old coward who has probably never fought a battle in your life. Soldiers are soldiers no matter what your race/religion. I have more respect for any insurgent over the cowardly and utter stupidity of the Bush administration who asks others to fight their ideological wars. Robert is so stupid he does not even understand that USA will kill more Iraqis then Saddam ever did. He will then say it was done for peace. Delusional mixed with global stupidity and arrogance looks a lot like USA.
So many ignorant comments posted. I am sure that they come from prepubescent teens who don't know the difference bewteen shit and clay. I see a lot of tough talk from people who hide behind their anonymity. 10 years from now when Iraq is a free democracy with a thriving economy, these dirtbags will keep their mouths shut for fear of getting their asses beat down. In any case, the point of this video is to show the professionalism and humility of the US soldier who was shot. Read the rest of the story if you are in any way inclined to know the truth. If history is any indicator, the cry babies and insulting whiners are never remembered. In the rare cases that they are, they are remembered for exactly what they were; misguided ill informed morons that speak without thinking.
well i think that it is fucked up that u all are putting down bush and his supporters at least yhey have enough balls to state there opinion and not care what ppl think. oh yea and we are over there kicking all of ur asses in iraq
Hey Robert. Sorry to say I would be happy to go over and fight on the side of the Iraqis/Insurgents. Just dont know the language and they would most likely not want my help as my country just screwed theirs up. I am a former Marine and have been in combat. When USA attacks another country for illegal and aggresive reasons, I do not become blind to patriotism but realize that the USA is committing a crime and should be beaten. Iraq has nothing to do with my freedom, hell they did not even have an airforce or tanks, we took that out 15 years ago. Bush is taking more freedoms from you then any other person in this world, under a guise that you are to stupid to see. You are an ignorant sheep who follows when told to. A fearful and scared old coward who has probably never fought a battle in your life. Soldiers are soldiers no matter what your race/religion. I have more respect for any insurgent over the cowardly and utter stupidity of the Bush administration who asks others to fight their ideological wars. Robert is so stupid he does not even understand that USA will kill more Iraqis then Saddam ever did. He will then say it was done for peace. Delusional mixed with global stupidity and arrogance looks a lot like USA.
It is war. all I hear is people talking bullshit. If I would be standing in the shoes of those arabs. I would also fight back. it is a war in Irak because of oil and conntrolling the whole world, ask the 3 maisons ! hahaha the war needs to stop. immediately!
You are right my friend. billions of dollars get spent on weapons and ammunition. without thinking about their own civilisation. What happened in New Orleans explains the whole situation. The US Government is giving no fuck about the americans nation. It's the media and the president controls the media. everything is getting changed. This is going deeper than most people know about. Sooner or later the truth will appear. And then I would like to see the faces of all those american people who do love their president and who do love what is happening abroad. All I would like to say, open your eyes go and look up the internet sites. the truth is there. Now it is just the matter of using a perfect way to put G.Bush outta the scene. that will be on spiritual level. My peeps you will soon hear from me. The wars will stop soon. IT is time to come together !
I am american. you are right my friends. I also begin to realize that there is something going on. this need to stop. Our country is getting destroyed by some satanic fools. Next monday I am going to establish a group of experts who are going to work on the anti bush campagne. dear greets. Jeremiah
Hey Robert. Sorry to say I would be happy to go over and fight on the side of the Iraqis/Insurgents. Just dont know the language and they would most likely not want my help as my country just screwed theirs up. I am a former Marine and have been in combat. When USA attacks another country for illegal and aggresive reasons, I do not become blind to patriotism but realize that the USA is committing a crime and should be beaten. Iraq has nothing to do with my freedom, hell they did not even have an airforce or tanks, we took that out 15 years ago. Bush is taking more freedoms from you then any other person in this world, under a guise that you are to stupid to see. You are an ignorant sheep who follows when told to. A fearful and scared old coward who has probably never fought a battle in your life. Soldiers are soldiers no matter what your race/religion. I have more respect for any insurgent over the cowardly and utter stupidity of the Bush administration who asks others to fight their ideological wars. Robert is so stupid he does not even understand that USA will kill more Iraqis then Saddam ever did. He will then say it was done for peace. Delusional mixed with global stupidity and arrogance looks a lot like USA. Actually, looks a lot like the behavior of the Christian Nazis, yes the Nazi party was competely backed by their christian churches, look it up. Blind devotion.
this guy is in the same buds bgu squad as i am he was wearing standard military bdu' some Bgu plates a standard M16A2 Infantry Assult Weapon luckily they hit him in his bgu plates otherwise he wouldent be the great soldier he is today
I really enjoy reading your articles. Keep up the great work. TBoardenson
Thank God that the moron sniper was'nt smart enough to pop our boy in the face.Every time I see a video like that or hear another story from my cousin who is over there right now it makes it harder and harder to walk down the street and not wonder when the next attack on American soil will be.Hopefully never,but we still all need to be prepaired if one of these toothless towel heads is lucky enough to carry out an attack.
stupid deutches cant shoot worth a freakin hoot....thats why were kicking their asses!! USA! semper fi
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You are right.
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The unedited version is better. At the end you see the medic directing the rest of the platoon toward the insurgents. You can only imagine what the insurgents are thinking as three humvees start moving to them and the van is moving. Moments later they are shot up and the very medic who they shot is treating his attackers (not seen in the video clip). Last I heard the actual sniper is spending 15 years in Abu Grahib (pretty much a life sentence or a death sentence if he ends up in the shiite part of the block).
The unedited version is better. At the end you see the medic directing the rest of the platoon toward the insurgents. You can only imagine what the insurgents are thinking as three humvees start moving to them and the van is moving. Moments later they are shot up and the very medic who they shot is treating his attackers (not seen in the video clip). Last I heard the actual sniper is spending 15 years in Abu Grahib (pretty much a life sentence or a death sentence if he ends up in the shiite part of the block).
Its amazazing the ignorant people that hide behind the American Flag. Talk crap and even try to kill Americans... then hide. Gawdisdead@cox.net says he was in the Marine Corp, but wants to fight against America? If he was in the Marine Corps, he was a an embarrassment to the uniform. Your nothing but a goat hearder want to be, and should be shot.
Just getting back to what is actually going on in this video. First of all to dispell some myths that I saw posted previously. The IBAS that soldiers wear is not a flak jacket as one blogger mentioned. And it is in fact desgned to withstand high velocity rounds from a 7.62mm rifle. The IBAS is not your vietnam era kevlar chicken vest. It is a highle engineered mixture of ceramics, kevlar, and some other goodies. It is deisgned to not only stop a bullet but disperse the blow throughout the plates to reduce the effect of blunt trauma damage. That is why he got back up. Now for the video itself. The men who shot this were infact Iraqi, as dictated by the accent. They also are part of some sort of organized chain of command as the apparent lower ranking individual was calling the man chanting Allah Akbar "Sir." Allah Akbar means merely that Allah is the highest or greatest. the conversation within the chanting is what is interesting. The senior ranking individual tells the other man to wait for the right shot. When the soldier is chest front the shot is taken. Shortly after he gets up the man who took the shot says...he went down didnt he? And the senior man says yes yes he went down. Towards the end of the clip the younger man asks "shall we go now?" and the more senior replies no we need to stay around for a while. This makes me wonder a few things. First, what organization did these men belong to where they could stay around an area after shooting an American and have a weapon present? Secondly, the choice to stick around tells me that perhaps they never intended to kill the soldier and were merely gathering intel on how US Forces reacted to sniper fire. Just a hunch, I guess this case has been solved, I guess Ill see how close I am.
yeah you should see the other part of the video where the guy starts crying like a fucking baby just as all USA asshole.....fuck them and hope they all die fucking american scum
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amazing video! Thank God for body armor. I heard he tended to the injuries of the people who shot at him after they were captured.
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CG Sniper Video
Via email:
"The video tape was taken from captured terrorist scum in Iraq - you've got to watch it. The footage was recorded by a terrorist sniper team (who were later captured by coalition forces, hence, we have the tape). It just came out of a briefing in Iraq in the last few days. In it, a Soldier takes a hit from a sniper square the chest - it knocks him right on his back, but the guy gets right back up again, aiming his rifle. It's amazing how fast he is back up on his feet; looking for a target.
The best part is to hear the terrorists' voices in the clip. It's such a riot to listen to them chanting "Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar!" and then when the kid gets back up again, they're like '...huh? WTF just happened?!'"
UPDATE: Original post pointing here comes from my main blog JACK ARMY (http://gojackarmy.blogspot.com).
UPDATE 2: more photos from this event up on main blog (same link as first update).
Posted by JACKARMY on 2005-07-20 13:04:22 PDT | Permalink
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Holy Shit!!!!!! It's too bad the viddy couldn't have shown the soldier getting back up and finding a target. That would've been AWESOME!!!!! Take that, Haji!
Posted by thebronze (thebronzspare@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-14 14:23:25 PDT
Could you post a direct link to the wmv file? Mac & Linux users can't see this.
Posted by williamP (no@no.org ) on 2005-07-14 15:13:24 PDT
Mac & Linux users only see this: Castpost does not currently support the embedded playback of Windows Media Video (.wmv) files on Linux and Mac OS computers. We are working hard to add this feature to our service. We appreciate your patience during ou
Posted by williamPq (no@no.org ) on 2005-07-14 15:14:16 PDT
if you are using Mac (or Linux) open up Terminal and type in: curl -O http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG%20briefing%20sniper%20clip.wmv (or perhaps wget instead of curl if you are using Linux) That will download the file to your home directory.
Posted by Mr. Khan (foo@foo.com ) on 2005-07-14 15:28:06 PDT
If you are using a Mac, right click on the Download link above and click Save Link. Then it will download the movie to your local desktop.
Posted by Dan (nobody@foo.com ) on 2005-07-14 15:51:05 PDT
What a great vid! I love this jack army video blog.
Posted by Dan (nobody@foo.com ) on 2005-07-14 15:52:31 PDT
"If you are using a Mac, right click." One butan.
Posted by Monkey (a@b.com ) on 2005-07-14 17:23:31 PDT
Mortimer thinks this video is kewl...
Posted by That (notjustanemogirl@mindless.com ) on 2005-07-14 18:42:04 PDT
Does "Allah Akbar" mean "God Is Great", or "I Just Crapped My Pants"?
Posted by johnd01 (johnd01@yahell.com ) on 2005-07-14 20:06:02 PDT
man that is what Im talking about! Fuck those pussy bitches! Our man bounced right back on your asses and Im sure killed a few more of you bas-tards!
Posted by Chris in Texas (cwlopey@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-14 22:36:04 PDT
Muslim terrorists are backwards people. They can't manufacture aircraft so all they can do is take pot-shots. This is further proof of our superior American culture at work.
Posted by Marcus (nuke@USA.win ) on 2005-07-15 04:13:33 PDT
I really think these boneheads should not be graced with a title of "sniper." What range was that video taken from? 50 yards? I'm sure even our worst rifleperson in any service could have made that shot. Snipers? You have to be kidding...Carlos Hathc
Posted by Curt (xformed@hotmail.com http://chaoticsynapticactivity.blogspot.com) on 2005-07-15 05:33:21 PDT
That was great to watch the soldier pop right back up like a weeble and the muj just trails off mid 'Akbar'
Posted by Ausint (transfer@aol.com ) on 2005-07-15 10:30:34 PDT
“God Bless America” "I support the troops and their mission" Now that's what I call a soldier. Shot in the chest and jumped right up and looked for the kill. Carlos you nailed it. These hacks don't deserve the title sniper.
Posted by Bloodycranium (zambezie@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 10:57:48 PDT
Thats great he didnt die but had it been a Marine there would of been some shooting going on. Where was the gunner in the turret? why didnt the guy who got hit return fire?
Posted by Yut (jasondrums@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-15 11:08:40 PDT
In response to Yut, that was an area with civilians around. You can't just open fire till you've acquired a target. I don't like the second guessing of this soldier.
Posted by Rob (rregr@gmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 11:42:35 PDT
Just found this from Michael Yon ( http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/ ) ... "I spent much of the night at the TOC getting caught up on the ever-changing Mosul, where soldiers showed captured enemy video of a sniper attack in Baghdad. An American soldier w
Posted by arrasmith (arrasmith@math.spammenot.wichita.edu ) on 2005-07-15 13:00:29 PDT
what he really needed to do was jump up and tell them dumb fucks that he was in fact Allah himself. After that he should have told them to kill themselves or he would condemn them to hell
Posted by Robert Blanchard (Blanchdog@aol.com ) on 2005-07-15 13:07:46 PDT
btw, for linux, mplayer 'http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG briefing sniper clip.wmv' or just do open URL in your favorite media player, or just click download link. Also, I get the feeling that if the message for "not supported" didn't come up, that it wo
Posted by Russ (spam@asu.edu ) on 2005-07-15 13:28:37 PDT
After listening to the rats and their chanting, they feel its a holy war. If they hack heads,bomb innocent people and like crapping in the sand, then we'd better slice through them with some of our holy steel as they don't know anything but death.
Posted by PHILL (phil_cot@msn.com ) on 2005-07-15 13:55:47 PDT
Go to this link for the background story: http://www.armytimes.com/story.p...2925- 976420.php
Posted by thebronze (thebronzspare@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 14:09:24 PDT
Any way to save this as a video file? This is one to save!
Posted by thebronze (thebronzspare@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 14:12:10 PDT
Thebronze there is a download link right under the video "right click" "save as"
Posted by bloodycranium (zambezie@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 14:22:07 PDT
Can anyone read the sign on the back of the Hummer? It looks like it's in English and Arabic, that the top line says "Danger," but what's the second line say? Something Sniper?
Posted by Bowler (steve.bowler@sbcglobal.net ) on 2005-07-15 15:37:15 PDT
Woohoo! Thank God that soldier was ok. Too bad he couldn't return the favor. Those p**ies couldn't even yell allah kabar loud in case they get caught and receive some serious pain.
Posted by Voodoo (gga@aol.com ) on 2005-07-15 17:05:19 PDT
They should take this tape, show 12 men watching a copy, pronouncing the men guilty in an Iraqi court, Iraqi soldiers putting the sniper and cameraman against the wall and executing them. Then play that on Iraqi TV every night for a month. It might do some good.
Posted by Mike O (m.openshaw@comcast.net http://datatroll.blogspot.net) on 2005-07-15 17:17:13 PDT
Interesting... The flak jackets aren't designed to stop a high powered rifle bullet, only artillery splinters! Thats one lucky kid.
Posted by John (JonGw52@aol.com ) on 2005-07-15 18:15:33 PDT
The story continues: The soldier located the source of fire about 75 meters to his 1200. A silver van was being used as a mobile sniper position. The interior was lined with mattresses to muffle the shots. It was occupied by the sniper, a spotter, and a driver. When the location was ID'd, the squad opened up on it wounding the sniper and spotter who fled on foot leaving a trail of blood. The driver was detained. Following the trail of blood, the sniper was found cowering in a private courtyard. The targeted soldier secured the prisoner before administering first aid. Damned Americans and their Nazi, gulag, Pol Pot tactics!How dare we treat terrorist prisoners better than the terrorists treat their own mothers.
Posted by Indigo Red (sangallo@sbcglobal.net http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/) on 2005-07-15 18:31:29 PDT
He wasn't wearing a 'flak jacket' and SAPI plates can stop multiple 7.62x54R hits
Posted by Tyrone (tyrone@hektik.org ) on 2005-07-15 18:31:43 PDT
We don't we do that to you, Kiki? God forbid you should get a clue.
Posted by JACK ARMY (thomas.t.nichols@us.army.mil http://gojackarmy.blogspot.com) on 2005-07-15 19:11:25 PDT
I don't see what the big freakin deal is. So he got back up? If you don't think that Americans do the same thing to the Muslim people, you are delusional. This is a war that cannot be won. This bloodshed is vicious and unnerving. Why don't we stick president bush out there and have them take potshots at him? Yep, he sees our men as expendable, and god forbid any one of his children has to go to war.
Posted by Kiki (dolan.williams@sbcglobal.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/sugarpuss) on 2005-07-15 19:15:17 PDT
Judging by their accents, they're either gulf arabs, or Saudis. Can't understand what they say. I studied Arabic for 4 years and lived in Riyadh for 5.
Posted by nicknafplio (nicknafplio@yahoo.co.uk http://www.jihadwatch.org) on 2005-07-15 19:15:59 PDT
Holy crap! That guy is in my bud's BCT!!!
Posted by Lil Toni (cutiedeepdiver@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-15 19:47:43 PDT
It is interesting how much they want to see the Secret Service and the Special Forces thinned, these people who want to put Bush into a warzone. I would guess about a couple of teams of the SF would have to die before they could even get to Bush, with around 100% of the Secret Service already dead. Which is why they want Bush in a warzone, they can't kill the Special Forces easily so they have to get them where they can't run around. God forbid the people who like to see Bush go into a war zone, would ever encounter the wives, children, and loved ones of the Secret Service personnel and the Special Forces operators that died in their duty protecting the President. Hey, I guess when you're a fanatic, anybody is expendable. Even your own countrymen.
Posted by Ymarsakar (ymarsakar@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-15 20:17:40 PDT
US should've invaded Saudi Arabia, its not like the Arab people, the Persians and Turks just LOVE the Saudi royal family. Saudi Arabia is even NAMED after them. Invade and kill the royal family, and people will be happy. They're dictators and cruel rulers, who DO fund terrorist organizations.
Posted by Name (cross_eyedyak@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 20:25:10 PDT
Hmmm... this video just reflects a normal part of war. I'm sure that in 1944 an American sniper tried to kill a German soldier from 50 yards away and did not succeed because the bullet got stuck in the German soldier's overcoat. The German soldier got up and shot back at the American sniper. Does this mean that the American sniper was a terrorist? Think for a minute here... It's freekin' war people! I understand if the man targeted is an innocent civilian, but this is not the case. It's a soldier from the U.S. army. There is nothing morally wrong in this picture. The only factor playing out in this charade is called nationalism.
Posted by Sib (invensiblesz@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 21:37:29 PDT
If Sib thinks this is a charade, he is a total and complete fool. Go back to the campus Sib, and tell your prof that you are a free thinker.
Posted by Shep (shep@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-15 22:06:23 PDT
Quote: "If Sib thinks this is a charade, he is a total and complete fool. Go back to the campus Sib, and tell your prof that you are a free thinker." War is no charade/game, and that is something that I didn't even have to mention because it is obvious to all those who have a portion of reason left in their minds. What I do have to specifically mention to those who can't think on their own is that I did not mean that war is a charade, but that this topic presented is a charade. This typical black and white philosophy of "terrorists" vs. patriotic all-American soldiers is what I'm calling a charade. The logic presented on some of the arguments here is laughable. I just wanted to clear some thing up here... before you call me a free-thinking jihadist who rapes children as a living.
Posted by Sib (invensiblesz@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 22:31:56 PDT
There's more than one fool commenting here...
Posted by thebronze (thebronzspare@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 22:32:41 PDT
Now,now folks, remember Sib is a "nuanced" "thinker", a "progressive"...and a completely ignorant fool. But it is nice to see the Left drop their phony "We support the Troops" line, and acknowledge they prefer to see US troops dead and the terrorists, excuse me, "insurgents" win. The same noble "insurgents" who do things like shoot up a bus and kill several woman whose sin was doing our laundry at a US base. Sib no doubt considers himself morally superior to the posters here and the soldiers in Iraq. However Sib is a moral coward unwilling to call the bad guys what they are because that would be too "simplistic". The Left has been very good at hiding their lack of character beneath a veneer of high sounding rhetoric. Oh and before any moonbats start the "chickhawk" BS I am on my second tour here in Iraq with the TXANG. So yeah, I am glad the US soldier was alright and that we nailed the shooters. One final word to Sib, crawl back under your rock.
Posted by KJB43 (KJB43@military.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:05:19 PDT
Dude, you're the fanatic. You're just like the terrorists we're fighting, in that you're unwilling/unable to see past your tunnel vission, black and white perception of USA All the Way vs. Sand Nigger Jihadis. You seem incapable of seeing moral absolutism as anything other than "good," and open-mindedness and reason as anything other than "cowardice." You're putting words in the guy's mouth. Liberals in the U.S. have nothing against the soldiers, nor sympathy for car bombers. Who we have a bone to pick with are the real moral cowards - men like George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheyney - men who have never seen a battle in their life, and yet rush to war as their first alternative. What we are against is a war based on deception (found those WMD's, yet) that, as it is being currently waged, is going to plunge Iraq into civil war and bankrupt us. So you're stationed in Iraq? My hat goes off to you; it takes balls to operate in a combat zone. However, my admiration for you stops right there. Just as no one can claim superiority over a soldier, you're no better than I am, chump. Regardless of where you're stationed.
Posted by Anders (polakinthegreatnorthwest@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:29:22 PDT
I'm not a liberal leftist. I'm not a conservative or a neocon. And whether I am pro or anti Iraq is not of your concern because it does not fit in this argument's logic. We are simply discussing matters of reason and of REALITY. I am a pragmatist. Before you decide to classify and generalize me into a group for stating a sound logic that you do not seem to share, first at least try to see things for what they are. How can you state that the man shooting that soldier there is a terrorist that blows buses and women up if you do not know him or his past? Call him an insurgent, yes, but you do not know enough of his past as to call the man a terrorist. I find it interesting that as you generalize this insurgent as a terrorist, you have generalized me into a leftist, even though you know nothing of either of us. Sure, his cronies do cause the deaths of many innocent civilians and they may be called terrorists, but as far as this video is concerned, he has done nothing that we know of that would earn him the title of a terrorist. He is going after a soldier of the U.S. army as the U.S. army would go after a member of the insurgency. He is playing by the rules of war. To call this man a terrorist would be the same as to call every single American sniper that has shot enemy troops, terrorists for shooting at the enemy.
Posted by Sib (invensiblesz@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:31:28 PDT
Okay, Sib, lets just take your argument start to finish and show how you are stupid. First, you describe that an American shooting at the German is a terrorist. he is not. The reason is simple, he is a soldier in an army which has preset combat zones, obeying by at least the most general guideline that civilians are not to be killed. Terrorists do no such thing, the kidnap and murder of the Egyptian envoy shows that civilians are just as much intended victims as anyone else. Secondly, why is THIS SNIPER a terrorist? Well, lets put it this way. If you hang out in a gang, and associate with other gangsters, and dress talk and act like the other people in the gang you hang out with, I will call you a gangster. This man is carrying out combat operations in an urban area crammed with civilians, true. However, by doing so he is also using civilians as cover. If this was a combat zone, the U.S. Soldier could have just called in a couple flyboys and iced every building in a mile. However, because it is a city, this would incur civilian casualties, so he is trapped by the rules of war, leaving the sniper to take advantage of this. In short, we show contempt for him because he hides behind our own decency and uses innocents as a shield. Finally, lets look at the big picture. Lets say the soldier crawled away. Do you, for a second, believe that the sniper would go and render aid? I would bet my life that if he could, he would walk right up and shoot that man right in the head, just like his allies did to that Romanian Heli Pilot two months ago. What did we do? Soldiers engage in combat, and once combat is over, they treat the enemy like a human being.
Posted by Austin (bigoldbarnyard@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-16 00:50:34 PDT
Dear Tyrone, blah blah blah. Good Day.
Posted by Dave (itsdave101@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-16 01:06:11 PDT
yes, good is great, but sometimes on the "wrong" side :-)
Posted by harald (puukko@gmx.net ) on 2005-07-16 02:08:51 PDT
The fact of the matter is that, really, (most) of the soldiers out there are out there doing a job, no matter how misguided or righteous their leaders may or may not be. It's good to see that one of them at least, will live long enough to see tomorrow's sunrise.
Posted by Kareel (W.Kaftan@gmail.com ) on 2005-07-16 08:34:24 PDT
OMFG! That's one lucky soldier; you can tell training and instincts took over when he dropped and got back up again. I'd pay a million bucks to see the look on the Insurgent sniper's face when he saw his target get up and take cover, seemingly unhurt. Great job to the guys that caught this sorry SOB; now that soldier has something to talk about once he returns home from the field. GOOD JOB, SOLDIER.
Posted by Black Tiger (milpolice@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-16 09:41:14 PDT
Re: Your Sniper Video: It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion. Thanks to the BBC, not the U.S. media, it was exposed as a fraud- a staged rescue with faked resistance. If it's not a fake, it could be the guy had a bullet-proof vest on; I'd bet on it because there's no other way, if he was hit, no way to tell for sure from that video, he could have gotten back up. Ever notice how our troops look (appropriately?) like the storm troopers from Star Wars? Anyway, assuming it's authentic. What's the news value? Jack
Posted by Jack Attack (impeachthecoward@elfrank.org http://www.impeachbush.org) on 2005-07-16 15:38:56 PDT
"Soldiers engage in combat, and once combat is over, they treat the enemy like a human being." Or they should, Gitmo and Abu Ghraib prove that extremely often in this war it is otherwise. Take note that like 80% of the people tho were put into Gitmo in the first place turned out to be nothing more but Taliban *hired soldiers*, that is to say, Afghans who were not especially fanatic, but simply trying to get some bucks to feed their families in a country that had been going down the drain for decades, so the only way many adult men down there know to make bucks is to get hired as troopers by some warlord, militia or whatever (which is less bad than growing opium poppy - at least it keeps the killing local) - or even complete innocents who were ratted by neighbors that were only after the rewards paid by the Coalition for terrorist *suspects*, or after their neighbor's 4WDs and saw ratting them out to the Coalition as a convenient way to get rid of them. Anyways, let's just say that I think that in 10 years or so we'd wish that the Iraq war would never have happened - and that even many of those who are really knee-jerk "GO USA" now will see it like that - I could long argue why so, but we shall just wait and see. Let's just mention that what came out of this Iraq thing is, amongst others: - some tens of thousands of new recruits for international terrorism, - a morale boost for fanatical Islam, - getting rid of a really bad dictator, who did however not pose a threat to any other country and much less of a threat to his own citizens as of recently than, say, in the 1980s, - the establishment of a government in his stead whose main financial and ideological backers are the hardliners from Tehran, - freedom and liberty for Iraqis, most of which are too busy just surviving to cherish that, - a nearly complete tying down of US ground forces (discounting readiness and reserve forces) for an indetermined period of time, - the realization that the current US administration is willing and able to resort to complete and utter lies in the face of the People to get through with its politics, - the realization that the current US military command is riddled by "groupthink", rendering it unable to realistically anticipate, plan and finally win a war against an enemy who not even has a single armored vehicle at his disposal, - the realization that the power elites of the West's main "allies" in the Middle East, namely Saudia Arabia and Pakistan, are a bunch of vengeful, back-stabbing bastards who have too much bucks for their own goods, as international terrorism's largest financial contributors are a bunch of citizens of these aforementoned countries. As a final note, I salute the medic. He should serve as an example for everybody in this conflict, following his duty without digressing to launch himself into primitive acts of violence. The fact that the enemy sniper received not a quick bullet, but medical aid, may just have been the experience that opened his eyes and showed him the wrongs of his ways. When attacked, it is necessary to defend oneself. But with cries for blood and vengeance, we only give the terrorists/guerilla/freedom fighters/whatnot the excuse they need to look down on us. These guys are trying to force this jihad-vs-crusade thingie down out throats. And it disgusts me to see so many people eagerly swallowing the bait. It is, after all, far from certain that *we* will be the ones that will win this war. Our fighting power is very much tied to political conditions, availability of billions of dollars, technical infrastructure etc etc, while these guys will do with a crappy carbine if they find nothing better, do not fear death and consider this a war that, nonwithstanding their *individual* scorecard, was designed to be sustainable and prolongable for decades, centuries even, if that need arise. We may have the better guns, but these guys have a capacity for prolonging this war that the West simply cannot match. If they still got us in their little backyard brawl a decade after peak oil, we're done for. Might be they will not win for another decade or three or five, but they will win. That is why IMHO this whole thing needs to be de-escalated as long as we're still in a position to negotiate on favorable grounds. And you good ole' boys should definitely tune up your understanding of strategy and read Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Mao's treatise of guerilla war - even if neither of them's American and one is a Commie to boot; they at least knew how to WIN their wars, and what more, how still to win when you're outnumbered and outgunned.
Posted by posidonia (shimo_miller@netcenter.uk ) on 2005-07-16 16:03:01 PDT
If you think we are losing this war it more than likely going to be your fault. The only way we could possibly fail is losing the support of the people. BTW no military uniform = terrorist check the Geneva conventions
Posted by RipRip (rtlynn@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-16 16:44:40 PDT
I'm going to have to call bullshit on that one, Rip. That was the same excuse that people made for how we lost Vietnam; that Americans weren't "behind their leader," even though Nixon was one of the worst liars we've ever had in office. No, the reason that we're losing is because our leadership is both mired in bureaucratic landslides, and not even sure what "winning" translates into. Regardless of how the media spins it, the amount of insurgent attacks INCREASING per day is not winning, and the incompetence of our leaders is not affected in one way or the other by any person's sentiments about the war. You simply expect an Iraqi insurgent to come out in the open and dress up like a target, just so that he can play according to our rules? The British made similar comments 200 years ago when American snipers, refusing to fight in archaic 18th century battlefield tactics, simply hid out in trees and shot their generals.
Posted by Anders (polakinthegreatnorthwest@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-16 17:58:39 PDT
RipRip: your optimism is nice, but is it founded? Imagine Iran upping the ante and announcing development of a nuclear weapon (which is not a nice or particularly smart move, but there is no law anywhere that forbids it). Will Rummy have the R&D site bombed? Possibly. Will Iran consider this an act of war? Most certainly. Will they let loose their considerable conventional SSM arsenal at US bases in Iraq (which are plotted into the targetting computers by now if they have at least a single brain cell left)? Probably. Will they block the Straits? They'll at least try to. Will they pour millions of money, arms and equipment to the Shia militias in Iraq? Certainly. Will the Iraqi Shiites turn against the US? Must be feared. Does the US have the manpower in ground forces available to counter this? Not at all - take a look at the South Korean-North Korean border as of lately to see what I mean. So as you can see, the hopes of winning this by slugging it out hinge on the assumption that all other 'rogue states' will not seize upon the fact that the US Army/USMC have not enough turning room left for another major war, and that the economical/geopolitical situation stays stable for the next 5 years or so; tough chance I say. If the plans for pullout beginning 2006 are implemented, the US military will regain some much-needed breathing space: as you would have noted had you followed the news this spring, the Mullahs in Tehran are laughing Washington in the face and all Washington can do is grind its teeth - there were not even threats of military action when Iran broke off negotiations, and when Tehran was asked to go back to negotiationg, Washington was told in no uncertain terms to sod off and die, so Washington had to ask, of all countries, France to try and do their best to bring Iran back to talking. but at the same time, the guerilla fighters and terrorists will cheer and say they've sent the infidel dogs back home with the tails between their legs, and from their point of view, they're actually right. And this will be duly noted in every home and village between Kupang. So though you may be right, you'd better not be so smug about it, because your smugness belies your cluelessness and that you confuse faith with blind faith, and also, it's all the more embarrassing when you'd be proven wrong. how about trying to disprove my arguments for a change instead of just firing off a quip and thinking that would be enough? BTW: no military uniform = militia, the Geneva convention has nothing to say about terrorists. So the Minutemen were terrorists. Point taken. Do us a courtesy and kill yourself not, spawn of terrorists, so the Colonies can come back into the arms of Mother Britain where they belong ;-P Man, I want the fanatics to get their noses bloodied and be shoved back under the rocks they crept out from so hard it hurts. But one has to be realistic about capabilities, and that means accepting the unpalatable truth that we now have some twenty thousand guys in Iraq alone who have learned the latest in terrorist/guerilla warfare techniques and just wait to be unleashed on the world. The suicide bomber groups even have to turn back recruits, because there are far more applying than they can handle, and that's not because suicide bombings are decreasing or there is any other indication that this threat is diminished. The easiest way to lose a war is to ignore the bad news. The US leadership is showing the exactly same behaviour as Saddam did in the First Gulf War. BTW they're now using TV remotes to detonate IEDs, and some groups have found a way to rig them so that they're effectively shaped charges that can pierce a Bradley and rip a Stryker to shreds. I wonder if you could do that. If not, think twice before deriding these terrorists, for their combat skills are obviously higher than yours. Oh, and where was this new technology tried out? In Fallujah, the so-called "pacified" town with "zero terrorist presence", for the love of God! So get actual and start with putting your rosie-posie pink glasses in the dustbin for a change. We're closer to losing this one than you guys were in Nam after the Tet offensive, and the only way to change anything about it is to start admitting it to yourself. May I remind you how much is at stake here, so this war should NEVER be treated nonchalantly. The other guys want to win as hard as we do, probably harder. Your behavior reminds me of the guy shouting to Allah on the video, and by God, I wonder whether in a few years' time, you will gulp like he did. I really hope not, but for that, the political leadership must come to terms with reality first. It's not the troops; as always, they're giving their best, as should be expected from any trooper. But so does the enemy - and that, from our point, is: giving their worst.
Posted by posidonia (himo_miller@netcenter.uk ) on 2005-07-16 18:27:10 PDT
edit: I meant "in every town and village between Agadir and Kupang".
Posted by posidonia (himo_miller@netcenter.uk ) on 2005-07-16 18:29:28 PDT
one point everyone has missed,this guy is not going home in a body bag after that shot and his family will not receive a crappy letter saying their son died in action.
Posted by mark (one_oz_guy@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-16 19:03:14 PDT
Terrorist: "Allah Akbar!! hmm? wtf? Did you just see.... Damn, this video won't sell now."
Posted by will (willyo-d@sbcglobal.net ) on 2005-07-16 22:43:16 PDT
Wow, great armor. Good to see that he got up and out of there. For all the discussion on this, it seems like there is a lot of people that have their heads up their butts on this. First, for all you conservatives, stop arguing with the idiots. You can see that they play by the same handbook that liberals have always played by. There is no way you are going to look intelligent when they pick a single thing from the whole conversation and parallel it to some absurd construct like the German/US Sniper comparison or the Vietnam War/People backing thing. If there is one thing that liberals are good at, it’s diverting attention from the facts and getting you off on a ‘rant’ for something else. Liberals have and always will divert the attentions from the facts into other conversation because all they have in the end is ideas and no backbone. Let’s take a look at some of the above crap…. “It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion.” - Wait, let me refresh my memory on that… Oh yea, that is the article that showed up in a few papers that stated that the soldiers were shooting blanks when they “rescued” her. But, a big problem… The Colt type lines of rifles don’t cycle with blanks unless you have a blank firing adapter on the end. And they are kind of hard to miss. “Let's just mention that what came out of this Iraq thing is, amongst others: - some tens of thousands of new recruits for international terrorism, - a morale boost for fanatical Islam, - getting rid of a really bad dictator, who did however not pose a threat to any other country and much less of a threat to his own citizens as of recently than, say, in the 1980s…” - Apparently the whole use of Chemical Weapons on their own people was a bit too far back to look at. For cripe’s sake one of the jag-offs was nicknamed “Chemical Ali”. You don’t get that from playing with Drano. “The fact that the enemy sniper received not a quick bullet, but medical aid, may just have been the experience that opened his eyes and showed him the wrongs of his ways. “ - Anyone else think of “Saving Private Ryan” at this point? You remember that German soldier that was let go, because he was ‘innocent” and then ended up shooting the same person that saved him in the back, killing him, later in the film. That is why IMHO this whole thing needs to be de-escalated as long as we're still in a position to negotiate on favorable grounds. - Ah yes, you rant on and on that this is a holy war and that they are prepared to fight for tens of decades (that’s hundreds of years) and that they will fight to the last, will all their might, and with rocks and sticks if need be because this is a holy war for them and we are on the wrong side… Oh wait, let’s see, do you really think that if you are right on those points, that they give one hair off a rat’s ass in Baghdad’s sewers for a favorable negotiation for de-escalation. And what do you propose as a solution for the fact that they look at anyone that is not Muslim, as infidels and therefore enemies? And you good ole' boys should definitely tune up your understanding of strategy and read Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Mao's treatise of guerilla war - even if neither of them's American and one is a Commie to boot; they at least knew how to WIN their wars, and what more, how still to win when you're outnumbered and outgunned. - And what makes you think that it will continue to be a ‘conventional’ war on our part? Do you think that if this kind of crap keeps up that there won’t be guerilla tactics employed by our side? I have read The Art of War and know quite a bit about guerilla warfare, and while you can sit back and complain, I can guarantee you that there will be squads that will be given ‘free reign’ to do what is necessary if the right situations exist. You simply expect an Iraqi insurgent to come out in the open and dress up like a target, just so that he can play according to our rules? The British made similar comments 200 years ago when American snipers, refusing to fight in archaic 18th century battlefield tactics, simply hid out in trees and shot their generals. - See, we are already known for it. Imagine Iran upping the ante and announcing development of a nuclear weapon (which is not a nice or particularly smart move, but there is no law anywhere that forbids it). Will Rummy have the R&D site bombed? Possibly. Will Iran consider this an act of war? Most certainly. Will they let loose their considerable conventional SSM arsenal at US bases in Iraq (which are plotted into the targeting computers by now if they have at least a single brain cell left)? Probably…. - Will it matter, once this is the response, do you think that we wouldn’t glass the sand and mop up the dust? Or just carpet bomb the whole country? Or better yet, use tactical nukes and take out only the 15 square blocks of the command and control for their militaries? Do you think for a second that if something like that was used, that the US would not respond in kind, or escalate to a reply that would leave them really thinking it was a bad decision on their part to take a whack at that hornets nest? so Washington had to ask, of all countries, France to try and do their best to bring Iran back to talking. - Wait, you bitch went we don’t get their approval, and now you bitch when we do get their approval. Man, I want the fanatics to get their noses bloodied and be shoved back under the rocks they crept out from so hard it hurts. - No you don’t, you want people to THINK that you do, but in the end you don’t. Don’t try to lie. You in the line before this one, state to do us a courtesy and kill ourselves. So that the colonies can come back in the control of Britian. But, you expect someone to believe you that while the colonies bloodied the nose of Britian for their independence; you want to bloody the nose of the fanatics… Wait, I get it. Your right, you do want to bloody the noses of the fanatics, you just weren’t clear in your statement. Here let me restate your comment for clarity. … Man, I want the conservative, war-mongering, country freeing, dictator overthrowing fanatics to get their noses bloodied… :-P and some groups have found a way to rig them so that they're effectively shaped charges that can pierce a Bradley and rip a Stryker to shreds. - Nope, Liberal PR. Pierce a Bradley, sure. Outer Armor only, but not crew/cargo compartment. Rip a Stryker to shreds… Again outer armor only. Remember people; the design of the new armor is to take the hit, blow off plates and shred the outer armor so that the energy of the weapon is neutralized BEFORE it gets to the crew and munitions. So, yea, it can look bad when one of these are hit. But, it is designed to do that, to save lives. We're closer to losing this one than you guys were in Nam after the Tet offensive, and the only way to change anything about it is to start admitting it to yourself. - But you want us to believe that you WANT the fanatics’ nose bloodied. Right? Facts are that the body count between the Tet offensive and the WHOLE WAR here are like the difference between Bill Gates Bank Balance and mine. But, when you want to look at the facts, feel free to. The political limits on the 38th parallel are not an issue here. Afghanistan is nothing like Laos… There are fewer men on the field than Vietnam and even with the increased car bombs and the like; the country is making strides to become free. Sounds like we are doing good and making more headway then we EVER did in Vietnam. May I remind you how much is at stake here, so this war should NEVER be treated nonchalantly. - Nonchalant, interesting wording. You know what it means? Calm and unconcerned about things is one definition. You seem to be taking the word to mean that you don’t take the war that way… But, you talk calmly of IED’s that shred Strykers and talk of the threat not being diminished despite our efforts to stop it, unconcerned with the result of your comments. You talk of how much is at stake in this war and then compare an opposing position to you as reminding you of the guy shouting to Allah on the video, invoking God’s help in wondering if they will gulp as the pansy assed terrorists did. Only to quickly retort that you hope not, but that the current political policies must change in order for that to be overted. Next, you give the liberal bump that it isn’t the troops, we support them, and it’s the war that we don’t support. If anyone is nonchalant about this war it is you. Yes, I know, it is not a real email address. So what, all that is doing is keeping my email address from being filled by all the drivel that liberals seem to force down any opposing viewpoint. I know I used to post my email, it just got hammered from every lefty that had a gripe. So, live with it.
Posted by SOE (none.available@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-16 22:58:14 PDT
I hate it when they strip out the punctuation. Please forgive that I did not make easy points to see where I was quoting and when I started to comment. Lets see if HTML inline will help.
Quick Check.
Posted by SOE (none.available@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-16 23:02:15 PDT
Try again with Punctuation:
Wow, great armor. Good to see that he got up and out of there.
For all the discussion on this, it seems like there is a lot of people that have their heads up their butts on this. First, for all you conservatives, stop arguing with the idiots. You can see that they play by the same handbook that liberals have always played by. There is no way you are going to look intelligent when they pick a single thing from the whole conversation and parallel it to some absurd construct like the German/US Sniper comparison or the Vietnam War/People backing thing. If there is one thing that liberals are good at, it’s diverting attention from the facts and getting you off on a ‘rant’ for something else.
Liberals have and always will divert the attentions from the facts into other conversation because all they have in the end is ideas and no backbone.
Let’s take a look at some of the above crap….
“It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion.” - Wait, let me refresh my memory on that… Oh yea, that is the article that showed up in a few papers that stated that the soldiers were shooting blanks when they “rescued” her. But, a big problem… The Colt type lines of rifles don’t cycle with blanks unless you have a blank firing adapter on the end. And they are kind of hard to miss.
“Let's just mention that what came out of this Iraq thing is, amongst others: - some tens of thousands of new recruits for international terrorism, - a morale boost for fanatical Islam, - getting rid of a really bad dictator, who did however not pose a threat to any other country and much less of a threat to his own citizens as of recently than, say, in the 1980s…” - Apparently the whole use of Chemical Weapons on their own people was a bit too far back to look at. For cripe’s sake one of the jag-offs was nicknamed “Chemical Ali”. You don’t get that from playing with Drano.
“The fact that the enemy sniper received not a quick bullet, but medical aid, may just have been the experience that opened his eyes and showed him the wrongs of his ways. “ - Anyone else think of “Saving Private Ryan” at this point? You remember that German soldier that was let go, because he was ‘innocent” and then ended up shooting the same person that saved him in the back, killing him, later in the film.
That is why IMHO this whole thing needs to be de-escalated as long as we're still in a position to negotiate on favorable grounds. - Ah yes, you rant on and on that this is a holy war and that they are prepared to fight for tens of decades (that’s hundreds of years) and that they will fight to the last, will all their might, and with rocks and sticks if need be because this is a holy war for them and we are on the wrong side… Oh wait, let’s see, do you really think that if you are right on those points, that they give one hair off a rat’s ass in Baghdad’s sewers for a favorable negotiation for de-escalation. And what do you propose as a solution for the fact that they look at anyone that is not Muslim, as infidels and therefore enemies?
And you good ole' boys should definitely tune up your understanding of strategy and read Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Mao's treatise of guerilla war - even if neither of them's American and one is a Commie to boot; they at least knew how to WIN their wars, and what more, how still to win when you're outnumbered and outgunned. - And what makes you think that it will continue to be a ‘conventional’ war on our part? Do you think that if this kind of crap keeps up that there won’t be guerilla tactics employed by our side? I have read The Art of War and know quite a bit about guerilla warfare, and while you can sit back and complain, I can guarantee you that there will be squads that will be given ‘free reign’ to do what is necessary if the right situations exist.
You simply expect an Iraqi insurgent to come out in the open and dress up like a target, just so that he can play according to our rules? The British made similar comments 200 years ago when American snipers, refusing to fight in archaic 18th century battlefield tactics, simply hid out in trees and shot their generals. - See, we are already known for it.
Imagine Iran upping the ante and announcing development of a nuclear weapon (which is not a nice or particularly smart move, but there is no law anywhere that forbids it). Will Rummy have the R&D site bombed? Possibly. Will Iran consider this an act of war? Most certainly. Will they let loose their considerable conventional SSM arsenal at US bases in Iraq (which are plotted into the targeting computers by now if they have at least a single brain cell left)? Probably…. - Will it matter, once this is the response, do you think that we wouldn’t glass the sand and mop up the dust? Or just carpet bomb the whole country? Or better yet, use tactical nukes and take out only the 15 square blocks of the command and control for their militaries? Do you think for a second that if something like that was used, that the US would not respond in kind, or escalate to a reply that would leave them really thinking it was a bad decision on their part to take a whack at that hornets nest?
so Washington had to ask, of all countries, France to try and do their best to bring Iran back to talking. - Wait, you bitch went we don’t get their approval, and now you bitch when we do get their approval.
Man, I want the fanatics to get their noses bloodied and be shoved back under the rocks they crept out from so hard it hurts. - No you don’t, you want people to THINK that you do, but in the end you don’t. Don’t try to lie. You in the line before this one, state to do us a courtesy and kill ourselves. So that the colonies can come back in the control of Britian. But, you expect someone to believe you that while the colonies bloodied the nose of Britian for their independence; you want to bloody the nose of the fanatics… Wait, I get it. Your right, you do want to bloody the noses of the fanatics, you just weren’t clear in your statement. Here let me restate your comment for clarity. … Man, I want the conservative, war-mongering, country freeing, dictator overthrowing fanatics to get their noses bloodied… :-P
and some groups have found a way to rig them so that they're effectively shaped charges that can pierce a Bradley and rip a Stryker to shreds. - Nope, Liberal PR. Pierce a Bradley, sure. Outer Armor only, but not crew/cargo compartment. Rip a Stryker to shreds… Again outer armor only. Remember people; the design of the new armor is to take the hit, blow off plates and shred the outer armor so that the energy of the weapon is neutralized BEFORE it gets to the crew and munitions. So, yea, it can look bad when one of these are hit. But, it is designed to do that, to save lives.
We're closer to losing this one than you guys were in Nam after the Tet offensive, and the only way to change anything about it is to start admitting it to yourself. - But you want us to believe that you WANT the fanatics’ nose bloodied. Right? Facts are that the body count between the Tet offensive and the WHOLE WAR here are like the difference between Bill Gates Bank Balance and mine. But, when you want to look at the facts, feel free to. The political limits on the 38th parallel are not an issue here. Afghanistan is nothing like Laos… There are fewer men on the field than Vietnam and even with the increased car bombs and the like; the country is making strides to become free. Sounds like we are doing good and making more headway then we EVER did in Vietnam.
May I remind you how much is at stake here, so this war should NEVER be treated nonchalantly. - Nonchalant, interesting wording. You know what it means? Calm and unconcerned about things is one definition. You seem to be taking the word to mean that you don’t take the war that way… But, you talk calmly of IED’s that shred Strykers and talk of the threat not being diminished despite our efforts to stop it, unconcerned with the result of your comments. You talk of how much is at stake in this war and then compare an opposing position to you as reminding you of the guy shouting to Allah on the video, invoking God’s help in wondering if they will gulp as the pansy assed terrorists did. Only to quickly retort that you hope not, but that the current political policies must change in order for that to be overted. Next, you give the liberal bump that it isn’t the troops, we support them, and it’s the war that we don’t support. If anyone is nonchalant about this war it is you.
Yes, I know, it is not a real email address. So what, all that is doing is keeping my email address from being filled by all the drivel that liberals seem to force down any opposing viewpoint. I know I used to post my email, it just got hammered from every lefty that had a gripe. So, live with it.
Posted by SOE (none.available@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-16 23:03:33 PDT
I swear it sounds like who ever is in the van is speaking Dutch. They make the shot, the one goes off on his allah akbar rant, and then the other says what i'm sure sounds like "heb je hem geraakt?" (did you hit him), and then the other replies "ja". Any details on who was caught in the van?
Posted by passer by (somewhere@outthere.com ) on 2005-07-17 04:12:44 PDT
Why do you call them "terrorists"? Last time I checked soldiers were legitimate military targets. Do you also call your own snipers "terrorists"?
Posted by aaa (aaa@aaa.com ) on 2005-07-17 06:18:20 PDT
As an arab speaker...the dialogue is pretty banal. They AREN'T "like..wtf..when the guy gets up"...they're like "He got hit right?" after he walks off. I am constantly baffled how this sorta thing is becoming more and more readily available for all to watch and see. God help all the boys and girls who have to deal with this sorta thing on a daily basis. I'm be so shittin' my pants, put in the same position. I'm pissed off that the US has drawn every freakin wayward soul ("terrorist")to the Iraqi playground to duke it out...instead of fighting THEIR OWN WAR in their OWN COUNTRY.
Posted by chicken (licken@monkey.butts ) on 2005-07-17 09:29:55 PDT
Oh for Christ's sake. How many freakin' moonbats can you collect in one place? Gosh, I hear a lot of clucking. Strap on that suicide bomber vest and join the people you support, then. What you're engaging in is moral relativism and I don't buy it. There is a vast difference between being forced to listen to Christina Aguilara music, and being forced to wear a thong on your head and Hitler's concentration camps or Stalin's gulags. Nobody at Gitmo is starving, they're getting gourmet halal meals blessed by an imam. They get special halal meat, butchered in the halal way. We're actually bending over for these people which I find ridiculous!!! They're lucky they're alive, let alone getting a brand new Koran, a brand new prayer cap, prayer cup, and specially prepared meals *including special holiday meals with dates and honey*
FYI--The warrior has done more to right wrongs and protect the innocent than any barrister (lawyer) or constable (policeman or sheriff) ever will.
I understand exactly what you are doing and definitely "see it" but, it doesn't do anyone who is has actually made this country their priority any good. You're not helping the 19-year old kid who is stuck in Baghdad wondering if he is ever going to come home alive with your pathetic theatrics, your whining and complaining about the reasons we went over are wrong. It's a little too late for that now. We're there, and we're committed. And like it or not, if you listen to the rhetoric coming out of these scumbags, they want to end our way of life. The 1999 ABC tape that was just re-released on the net talks all about the connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam. Nobody had any problems with it then. Could it be that is because a democrat was sitting in office? And that he was bombing aspirin families and too busy unzipping his pants to get a grip? We've been attacked by these people going all the way back to 1968. And I don't particularly care if you don't agree with the reasons we went there. That doesn't help any soldier's morale to know that people - any people - at home don't support him. He doesn't see your nuance. He doesn't weigh your life experiences against those of the mission to which he is assigned. He is trying to stay alive and do the best job he can because that is the shortest route home. And what about the young woman who had to leave her children at home and her college studies behind because her Reserve unit got called up? Does it do any good for them to see the images of people protesting them? Protesting their mission? Protesting their shooting terrorists who won't hesitate to kill them in the most ferocious and cowardly ways? Does she refuse to do the job she signed on for at the risk of her family's welfare? Her world does not have a single thing to do with your little complaints and it does her no comfort to learn you feel she is fighting for Bush’s agenda. She’s not, she’s there on her own agenda. Do you think anyone but someone who shares your point of view benefits from it? Not at all. The service-members know that any little bit of good they do in Iraq or Afghanistan is an improvement of the life these people lived under their former rulers. And they hear it from the people themselves every day. Children are running up to the tanks because they love the American soldiers. And terrorists are targeting them with suicide bombings while simultaneously killing those children. They have no respect for life as we know it--they love death.
Your complaints against the war and the anti-war media spin only hurts our men and women in the Middle East, Afghanistan, and other places around the world. That's my problem with your point of view and how you voice it. You are hurting the morale of the fighting forces. You are working in parallel with those who would kill them. As long as you oppose, you support another point of view. In this case, you are supporting evil, close-minded, misogynist, fascist terrorists and killers who do not differentiate between their victims as proved around the world with every timed, homicide, or road-side bomb. These people are far, far worse as individuals and through action than the president ever will be. And you seem to support them as a matter of what…? Principle?
Posted by Cao (caoilfhionn1@gmail.com http://caosblog.com) on 2005-07-17 12:22:58 PDT
This video is only half the story. According to the Army Times, the same soldier who got hit was among those who tracked down the snipers and wounded them. As the snipers fled, they were apprehended and the soldier who got hit, treated the wounded sniper who shot him.
Posted by don ruhter (druhter@ameritech.net ) on 2005-07-17 14:01:04 PDT
The video came in well on my windows machine.
Posted by Rod Stanton (rod_992@MSN.com ) on 2005-07-17 14:02:36 PDT
Jack Attack, He not only got up, but when they found the wounded sniper, our guy slapped handcuffs on him and then gave him first aid for his wounds. He showed more humanity towards the enemy than you show to your own countrymen. Putz!
Posted by Tinker (jerrymadeleine@rcn.com ) on 2005-07-17 14:06:27 PDT
Cao Whoa, you're faster than I am! This story tells you why we're gonna win this fight.
Posted by Tinker (jerrymadeleine@rcn.com ) on 2005-07-17 14:08:25 PDT
kiki The reason he got back up is the same reason that the Iraqis will get back up and beat the jihadis. When Saddam feeds you into a chipper, rapes your daughter in front of you, kills thousands of Kurds through chemical weapons, slaughters hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who only ask that they be allowed to live free without fear, etc., etc. We liberate 50 million in Afghanistan and Iraq, open the door to democracy in Ukraine, Lebanon, Kuwait, Kyryzyckstan (sic!!!) and maybe even Syria & Egypt, shut down the Khan nuclear pipeline, and get Libya to come clean on nukes. And you hate Bush so much you want to undo all that? You're not like the liberals I used to know. You're more like the "useful idiots" the SU thought would save their bacon. 1989 put the kabosh on that. Iraq will put the kabosh on you.
Posted by Tinker (jerrymadeleine@rcn.com ) on 2005-07-17 14:16:14 PDT
Where did all the moonbats come from? Why the trash talking on whether a person's position depends on whether someone served in a combat zone or not? Did Lincoln, Roosevelt, Wilson, Clinton and many others serve in combat? No. But that doesn't mean you can dismiss their ideas out of hand. Or accept those that did serve without questioning. "It's the Ideas, Stupid!" As for the reasons to go into Iraq. We only need one that's valid, not that all reasons are found valid. Sanctions crumbling (thank Oil-for-Food bribes for that), investigation of WMD capabilities at a standstill, Iraqi violation of Armistice terms, attempted assassination of a former President, firing at Coalition planes patrolling the No-fly zones, violation of UN resolutions _ Sheesh, any one was enough to authorize any right-thinking nation to go clean Saddam's clock. But that's not enough for the moonbats, right? Killing fields, violation of UN-mandated imperatives, etc. That's not important. Instead, let's stick it to Bush. That's why this fight will be longer and harder than necessary - moonbat ankle-biters will make it so. Sad. hand.
Posted by Tinker (jerrymadeleine@rcn.com ) on 2005-07-17 14:36:16 PDT
i wish they didnt release this video...my concern is that this will get back to the terrorists in iraq who will aim to shoot outside the area where a flak jacket is worn
Posted by endnprbias (endnprbias@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-17 14:38:25 PDT
Too bad they didn't capture him returning fire on their chicken shit asses.
Posted by Spc Black (thelostsoul98@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-17 16:58:40 PDT
Evil tried to take another life, but was denied. Shouldn't we all be extremely happy? :)
Posted by daniel (tenkoku1@hotmail.com http://www.timeoftrouble.com) on 2005-07-17 17:54:43 PDT
Great clip that, rather reminds me of the time the Jihadis ambushed a convoy whilst video taping it then it all went horribly down hill for them as an American patrol rolled onto the scene.Also those that think that these Jihadis are 'freedom fighters' as Micky Moore called em - oh wait 'Minutemen' sorry my mistake is what he called them should perhaps stop and think for a second. Freedom fighters who perpously detonate thier carbombs around crowds of children? Blowing up bombs next to petrol tankers outside of Mosques - real freedom fighter actions there the stuff of heros eh? These people belong to no offically recognised force as such (ok Syria and Iran help), they were no unifroms,they are not recognised by any goverment in the whole world (like the taliban), they are holy warrior clowns.end of argument
Posted by JJShep (JJShep50@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-18 04:12:54 PDT
one of the guys ask" hebben we hem geraakt?" thats dutch for "did we hit him?"
Posted by maarten (junkmaiil@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-18 04:53:30 PDT
"Thank God, but..." I get tired of the rhetorical and selfserving "caring" about our troops and the almost meaningless ribbons festooning automobiles of those who really care almost nothing. It's the same bunch who were spitting on the soldiers coming back from Vietnam while saying, "actually we love them" If you support our troops, why don't you shut up and get behind them?
Posted by Les (sugmullon@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-18 08:33:49 PDT
Here's the supposed bruise left from the shot and the damage to the body armor: http://moneycentral.groups.msn.com/ADSXMoneyCentral/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=121619&LastModified=4675529781091305460
Posted by Dave (daveswagon2000@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-18 09:00:35 PDT
That was some shitload of luck, no doubt. Americans should really stop being such unrealistic about their army, they sucks. No really, you even say "We won WWII!" News Flash: You only took out the Japanese (not to do alot with WWII... ugh) and with an unnecesarry number of innocent people dying from two a-bombs. Also, thank the SAS for giving a hand in big missions and the juggernaut news flash: Russians ended the war. Yeah. Guess who took over berlin and sticked a flag on the parialemntal building? Guess how many German troops died in Russian battlefields compared to other allies.
Posted by somebody (somebody@basher.com ) on 2005-07-18 12:57:08 PDT
this is why we should get them boys outa there! this kid was lucky, would you be watching this if he was not so lucky that day? Thanks for the war Bush
Posted by lifetimeofjoy (lifetimeofjoy@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-18 15:29:29 PDT
I'm happy the soldier is okay, however, I hope the Army studies this video and gets it through some troops heads that you must always be ready. Where was the gunner in the turret? Were were the other soldiers? Too often in Iraq I seen army convoys roll pass with no one in any of the turrets which made them easy targets. No aggressivness at all. If they fuck with a Marine or a special trained soldier, you would see us come out like ants and fuck there world up, immediately. Kodos to the soldiers because they did capture them, but they could've reacted much quicker and they made themselves extremely easy targets. kill hagi!
Posted by err (6556@897.com ) on 2005-07-18 15:54:05 PDT
Couple of comments, thank God for Russian armaments and US technology. The AK-47 is pretty durable (much better in the mud than the old Vietnam M-16A1, which we no longer use, being on at least the A3), but not the most precise or effective when poorly maintained over years. Also, shows the superiority of US technology. As far as the "insurgent" argument, my bet is this is some foreign terrorist, on a "safari" and not acting out of nationalistic intentions. Hence the MAJOR difference between this and Vietnam. Please note, Iraq is by no means a "quagmire," merely the latest hot safari zone for fanatical islamo-fascists who have hijacked Islam. Better there than here. And despite the best attempts by the leftist mainstream media, morale is high! Much unlike Vietnam. Could it be because we have an all volunteer armed forces vice draftee's? Or could it be there is a huge disconnect between mainstream America (which is not located in New York City, LA, San Fran, or other major urban areas, look at the blue/red map by county before you bring an incredible argument) and CBS, NBC, ABC, and NPR? Hmmm.
Posted by sticdawg (sticbiz@cox.net ) on 2005-07-18 18:36:06 PDT
It's hard to know where to begin. Some of this sounds like a bunch of old Vietnam vets (or those influenced by them) bitching about things haven't existed for years or never did in the "Nam. What I find amusing is the amount of the unknowing who think that Iraq is like Vietnam. Some differences: 1. M-16A1's been gone for years. 2. What the troops wear nowadays are bullet proof vests, not that Korean War era shit they had in Vietnam. 3. In Vietnam, the enemy, even the VC, were usually from the same country (North& South VN being the same), not some punk on a hunting trip, not wearing a uniform. Which reminds me - according to that Geneva Convention everyone always wants the US only to abide by, conducting operations out of uniform is "no go". It puts you outside international law. Read the GC. You can find it on line. Check out the signatories. Very interesting. Or at least watch a WW2 movie. 4. For Anders - even the North Vietnamese (Gen. Giap, for example) say that they were militarily defeated after Tet & Khe Sahn but they knew if they hung on long enough they could get the US media and anti-war types to persuade the US Government to leave. Read a book once in a while. 6. Somebody - you're right about one thing only: the Soviets did most of the heavy lifting in the European Theater of WW2. But the US & Britain helped a little. As for the Pacific Theater - "You only took out the Japanese (not to do a lot with WWII... ugh)" - well, I'm sure the SAS could have done that better too. Too bad there were only about a thousand of them or less. Read a book. Try "Commandos and Rangers of WW2" by James Hunt. Oh yeah, try proof reading. Otherwise you sound like Elmer Fudd, sputtering. 7. Despite what the MSM puts out, the level of combat in Iraq is much lower than VN. The US casualty rate is much lower. I said US because I want to point out that many of the Iraqi civilian casualties are a product of terrorists – yes, irregular guerilla forces trying to influence political decisions by harming non-combatants. The most discouraging part is that there are so many people who don't seem to realize that this is actually the opening phase of the war to keep the Wahabists Muslims from taking over the world and re-establishing the Caliphate. If you think democracy is bad, try living under that. You wouldn't even have a computer, much less be allowed to spout unfounded accusations at your central government on it. In fact, if you didn't get your contrary ass to mosque on Friday, you'd be whipped or one-handed. Wake up, children. Time is running out. It's hard to know where to begin. Some of this sounds like a bunch of old Vietnam vets (or those influenced by them) bitching about things haven't existed for years or never did in the "Nam. What I find disturbing is the amount of the unknowing who think that Iraq is like Vietnam. Some differences: 1. M-16A1's been gone for years. 2. What the troops wear nowadays are bullet proof vests, not that Korean War era shit they had in Vietnam. 3. In Vietnam, the enemy, even the VC, were usually from the same country (North& South VN being the same), not some punk on a hunting trip, not wearing a uniform. Which reminds me - according to that Geneva Convention everyone always wants the US only to abide by, conducting operations out of uniform is "no go". It puts you outside international law. Read the GC. You can find it on line. Check out the signatories. Very interesting. Or at least watch a WW2 movie. 4. For Anders - even the North Vietnamese (Gen. Giap, for example) say that they were militarily defeated after Tet & Khe Sahn but they knew if they hung on long enough they could get the US media and anti-war types to persuade the US Government to leave. Read a book once in a while. 6. Somebody - you're right about one thing only: the Soviets did most of the heavy lifting in the European Theater of WW2. But the US & Britain helped a little. As for the Pacific Theater - "You only took out the Japanese (not to do alot with WWII... ugh)" - well, I'm sure the SAS could have done that better too. Too bad there was only about a thousand of them or less. Read a book. Try "Commandos and Rangers of WW2" by James Hunt. Oh yeah, try proof reading also. It keeps you from sounding like Elmer Fudd sputtering. The most discouraging part is that there are so many people who don't seem to realize that this is actually the opening phase of the war to keep the Wahabists Muslims from taking over the world and re-establishing the Caliphate. If you think democracy is bad, try living under that. You wouldn't even have a computer, much less be allowed to spout unfounded accusations at your central government on it. Wake up, children. Time is running out.
Posted by Wjnger (18A40@FYIYCTAJ.com ) on 2005-07-18 19:48:44 PDT
you know, it interests me to read what you all think about this. That guy is a warrior. He got SHOT people, just be thankful the shooter didnt go for his head and that hes ok. what the guy above me said about the opening phase of a war is correct. I know you all probably think that Islam is a peacefull religion and that the "terrorists" are actually extremists. You couldnt be more wrong. The terrorists are a perfect example of a "good" muslim. The koran instructs all muslims to wage holy war on the entire earth untill the earth is completely islamic. want proof?? "Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.” thats just one verse out of hundreds. Islam is a religion of war created by a man who claimed to be a prophet but was nothing but a pirate, warmonger, thief, murderer etc. Jesus Christ is the only person that can bring you salvation, not dying in a holy war....
Posted by James (fmm626@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-18 22:26:26 PDT
I am proud to see that people are supportive of pfc. Tschiderer. Steve is a childhood buddy of mine from back home as well as a fellow graduate from the same high school. When I learned of the incident that occurred, I contacted him and discussed the issue in great detail. CNN covered the story this evening and interviewed his parents. I noticed that some people were questioning the round NOT going through his flack jacket. The sniper was 75 meters away and the round actually grazed his thumb causing the bullet to hit his vest at an angle. “Allah Akbar,” I don’t care what language you say it in, it’s true, God is Good. I’m not a pious guy, but when I think about this story, I have to agree, God is good. It’s common to hear all the sad stories, but for Steve’s friends and family to be blessed with a story of this nature is incredible. I wish pfc. Tschiderer and all American soldiers great health and courage to do their jobs and return home safely.
Posted by Ted (Oven_Lovin@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-18 23:09:37 PDT
Crush the infidel Islamists who spread terror with fire and weapons. They have to be crushed or they will crush us. May God assist us in the great Crusade agaisnt tyrrany and oppression they have waiting for whats left of Christian civilization. May we fight back or be enslaved!
Posted by Joseph (geologyman1@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-19 04:39:21 PDT
the force is strong in him
Posted by Joe Schmoe (fuggoff@gmail.com http://nope.com) on 2005-07-19 07:07:05 PDT
Lotsa antiBush sentiment at play here. Look, if you hate the US, you can drop dead for all I care--and the sooner the better. Read Bill W's "Sanctuary" at ejectejecteject.com to understand why these slimeballs are called terrorists. And if that doesn't convince you, then you must think Erik Rudolph was justified or you're a two-faced lying sack of [Michael Moore]. That soldier was not "lucky". He was prepared. His leadership was prepared. And he is an example of the oft-ignored fact that we are winning. Afghanistan is free. Iraq is free. And we're helping them train the people they need to stay that way. And, in a relatively short time, the people who lied about Bush are going to need to eat crow publicly. We'll make certain of it. This won't taste good to the Left...
Posted by jtb-in-texas (setnaffa@excite.com ) on 2005-07-19 10:26:07 PDT
The soldier not only got up, his unit returned fire (including turret gun on longer video), chased the wounded sniper and caught him. Then the soldier (a medic) treated the sniper who had shot him.
Posted by OZ! (kosborne@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-19 10:59:53 PDT
You naysayers are all punks. Yep, I said it. Get off your whining asses and meet me over here. If you survive a day outside the wire of the FOB then I'll kick the crap out of you when you get back. And if you're too old to join, try a civilian security job. They are available. Or you could work for KBR, like the many other heroes here helping us out. Until then, put your keyboard away.
Posted by Smith (taylor.allen.smith@us.army.mil http://www.simplesmith.blogspot.com) on 2005-07-19 12:00:01 PDT
Regarding heavy-lifting and the Russians, I don't think that somebody@basher.com remembers the North Atlantic fleet that was supplying Russia and a little known invasion called "D-Day". The SAS was formed during Africa campaign, so I am not sure where you thought that they did all of the lifting for the Rangers, The Devil's Brigade, Marines, SOS and Commandos. The "a-bombs" did not kill an unnecessary number of people, otherwise the generals and the Emperor would have quit after the first one....duh! The Russians were allowed in first by the Allies....which you mind remember the Patton saying about "making some other poor dumb bastard die for their country". Regarding the rifle that he had, it was an M4 carbine. Most of the guys that I talked to whilst over in Kuwait that would visit my Army boat loved their M4's and the Picanniny Rail system. Regarding fighting in our own country, we are just helping the "Religion of Peace" clean its own house.
Posted by Vince (mkcvinny@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-19 15:02:35 PDT
For those people who are ripping on Bush, saying he thinks the soldiers are expenable, i have a question for you. On September 11th, when you saw thousands of americans killed and injured did you think of their lives expendable? Because i know i didnt and Bush didnt and now America is fighting a war to prevent future attacks on America and all you can say is that Bush is a bad president and those dumbass snipers arent terrorists? thats funny because i consider terrorists to be someone fighting against a the free world supporting oppresion. But obviously you are too stupid to see that and and continue to bitch because gas prices are up?!? Well im sorry but i think its worth the extra cash to keep my family safe. So before you start posting dumbass comments think about it first you libral asshats.
Posted by Zach (zwarren970@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-19 19:34:13 PDT
BUSH WAS IN AIRFORCE PPL AND FOR U PPL WHO SAY THEY ARENT TERRORISTS DAM U TO HELL THEY ARE AND U HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL URSELVES AMERICANS,DO NOT ATTACK AT BUSH...WHAT ABOUT PRES CLINTON? HAVING AN AFFAIR IN THE OFFICE!! AND HAS ANY1 SEEN THE MOVIE BLACK HAWK DOWN? THAT IS THE FAULT OF CLINTON AS WELL
Posted by tony (mapletyphoon@yahoo.com http://dasda) on 2005-07-19 20:50:11 PDT
Shows them right. Never shot someone whose apart of the greatest military in the world. Especially when they have the most hi-tech equipment and body armor on the market. Everyone can learn from this. Never attack America;)
Posted by Mike (Mikethekat@msn.com ) on 2005-07-19 22:21:49 PDT
Hello all, I'll leave any and all of my own political beliefs out of this, as I don't think that's what the posting of this video was intended to invoke. I'm ex US Army 11B, so I am extremely happy to see this 19D (I'm guessing 19D, as the previously posted e-mail to Point Blank states the PFC is from a Cav unit) is alive because of his armor. By the way, it's not a "flak jacket" he's wearing, the IBA (Interceptor Body Armor) he's wearing is a Level IIIA soft armor vest and the SAPI (Small Arms Protective Inserts) plates that it holds are what actually stopped the round. The Level III SAPI actually issued with the IBA can stop up to a .308 AP round, and if the information is correct he was shot with a 7.62R from a Dragnouv. The IBA and SPEAR armor systems in use in-theatre are saving lots of lives, and it's amazing to actually see it in action. Once again, my congradulations go out to this soldier, and his family. I'd also like to thank Point Blank, as well, for creating the armor that saves so many of our soldier's lives in combat zones.
Posted by Pyrodox (pyrodox@comcast.net http://www.njaoc.net) on 2005-07-20 09:23:03 PDT
I never get to see stuff like this state side. Why can't we see this on the evening news? I just remember seing our guys get cut to ribbons in Viet Nam by charlie every night on TV after dinner. Thank GOD for the guy's body armor, now if they could just find a way to deal more effectively with the IED's. My GOD Bless all of you BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN who are putting your lives on the line as I send this from the comfort and security of my home in the USA. You are all heroes! .......dale straw
Posted by dale straw (dale_straw@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-20 10:31:16 PDT
Does anyone know where the long version of the video is on the net? Thanks,
Posted by Vince (mkcvinny@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-20 11:45:21 PDT
Blows my mind to see the criticism of Gitmo from the same nipples that state that they "support the troops". Give me a break! There is more religious freedom at Gitmo than present elsewhere in the U.S., and the residents are treated far better than they deserve or are entitled to be! These are not POW's people. They are captured terrorists, and if you think that they are treated poorly, I suggest you adopt one!
Posted by Ron (ron@momentumreps.com ) on 2005-07-20 15:40:04 PDT
"Now,now folks, remember Sib is a "nuanced" "thinker", a "progressive"...and a completely ignorant fool. But it is nice to see the Left drop their phony "We support the Troops" line, and acknowledge they prefer to see US troops dead and the terrorists, excuse me, "insurgents" win. The same noble "insurgents" who do things like shoot up a bus and kill several woman whose sin was doing our laundry at a US base. Sib no doubt considers himself morally superior to the posters here and the soldiers in Iraq. However Sib is a moral coward unwilling to call the bad guys what they are because that would be too "simplistic". The Left has been very good at hiding their lack of character beneath a veneer of high sounding rhetoric. Oh and before any moonbats start the "chickhawk" BS I am on my second tour here in Iraq with the TXANG. So yeah, I am glad the US soldier was alright and that we nailed the shooters. One final word to Sib, crawl back under your rock." Posted by KJB43 (KJB43@military.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:05:19 PDT "Dude, you're the fanatic. You're just like the terrorists we're fighting, in that you're unwilling/unable to see past your tunnel vission, black and white perception of USA All the Way vs. Sand Nigger Jihadis. You seem incapable of seeing moral absolutism as anything other than "good," and open-mindedness and reason as anything other than "cowardice." You're putting words in the guy's mouth. Liberals in the U.S. have nothing against the soldiers, nor sympathy for car bombers. Who we have a bone to pick with are the real moral cowards - men like George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheyney - men who have never seen a battle in their life, and yet rush to war as their first alternative. What we are against is a war based on deception (found those WMD's, yet) that, as it is being currently waged, is going to plunge Iraq into civil war and bankrupt us. So you're stationed in Iraq? My hat goes off to you; it takes balls to operate in a combat zone. However, my admiration for you stops right there. Just as no one can claim superiority over a soldier, you're no better than I am, chump. Regardless of where you're stationed. " Posted by Anders (polakinthegreatnorthwest@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-15 23:29:22 PDT Great post KJB43, and thanks for serving. I was in the Army, my battle buddy in basic has done 2 tours in Iraq and one in Afg...I shoulda too, but was discharged *different story*.... Funny how the guy who responded to you says you put words in other peoples mouths, but I know this Sib *short for Siblesz on other forums, which is how I got routed here* and hes actually said "i'd rather the GI die than the insurgent/terrorist/jihadist" The truth DOES come out with you people. You can hide it, and like minded fools will help throw up smokescreens to defend you, but as with so many things, once the whole picture is known the truth *and there is only ONE truth my friends, not "truth is relative" BS* always comes out. Fact is, you people hope a whole division gets wiped out so that Bush looks bad, and you really could care less about our service people. And you don't bother to really understand the reasons for the war, nor the enemy we are fighting. Bush is our commander in chief, and you libs can lie to yourself that its the media *ha yea right, you mean the lib media?* which makes it look like the soldiers are his stupid pawns, but you don't get it. He IS our commander, and he had the stones to try to actually get the job done and not just pretend the sky wasn't falling.
Posted by Jes101st (crazyj75101@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-20 17:57:06 PDT
"Re: Your Sniper Video: It could quite possibly be a fake, just like the dramatic rescue of that white female U.S. soldier from the Iraqi hospital toward the beginning of the invasion. Thanks to the BBC, not the U.S. media, it was exposed as a fraud- a staged rescue with faked resistance. If it's not a fake, it could be the guy had a bullet-proof vest on; I'd bet on it because there's no other way, if he was hit, no way to tell for sure from that video, he could have gotten back up. Ever notice how our troops look (appropriately?) like the storm troopers from Star Wars? Anyway, assuming it's authentic. What's the news value?" Jack Wasn't staged fool, they expected alot heavier resistance as the hospital had warned of a heavier presence, and the enemy had been using such buildings frequently. The terrorists actually cleared out before the raid took place, and yes it was filmed, and yes *OMG!* you saw Navy seals and Rangers in on the rescue because they didn't know how hot the OPFOR would be.
Posted by Jes101st (crazyj75101@hotmail.com ) on 2005-07-20 18:11:11 PDT
Were the snipers in uniform? If not in uniform they are not soldiers. Are the snipers sent by a government? Are they claimed by any government as that government’s soldiers? If not they are not soldiers. If they are not soldiers, what are they? The answer is they are terrorists. Just because they target soldiers doesn’t mean they are not terrorists. The concept of legitimacy can be applied to almost anything, even to killing. Asking us to support only those leaders that have a military background or combat experience is like asking us not to dial 911 because the mayor was never in the police force.
Posted by Sluggo (jmoulder@satx.rr.com ) on 2005-07-20 23:05:19 PDT
how many insurgents do you know of that will provide medical attention to a wounded US soldier, instead of trying to hack their f...ing head off? CNN showed the entire tape,not just this clip.. and interviewed mom, dad and da medic.. lots more detail at this address http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2005/07/19/cho.iraq.medic.sniper.cnn
Posted by OlBaldy (olbaldy0@lycos.com http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2005/07/19/cho.iraq.medic.sniper.cnn) on 2005-07-21 03:24:40 PDT
Those fuckers cant hide forever. As long as we are over there they will constantly be in "COWARD" mode.
Posted by Matt (dbranger155@yahoo.com ) on 2005-07-21 16:51:52 PDT
I can no longer look at a U.S. soldier without tearing up! Praise God for these guys; they are doing their job and doing it well! As a law enforcement officer, I often tell people that they just can't understand the job unless they have done it. Well, same applies to our U.S. soldiers. Most of us don't have a clue, yet we will sit back and make all or our ignorant little comments behind the safety of our computer screens! "Walk a mile in their shoes" and I guarantee you will change your mind! Forget the politics and just start supporting the men and women that are making the ultimate sacrifice!
Posted by Chad Harding (higherleveldefense@msn.com ) on 2005-07-22 14:46:10 PDT
This is for the wingnut who said the The real moral cowards are men like George Bush Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney Men who have never seen action Or some thing to this effect. I say to you, Thank G*d our parents and grandparents did not have your attitude, or we would all be eating sushi and saurkraut and speaking Japanese. ( I realize if you live in California, you probably are eating sushi right no.) Lets look at Billy Clinton, draft dodger, sent men and women into harms way to fight wars that we had no bussiness being in. And after the first attack on the WTC and attacks on our embassys he ( Clinton) said he would catch the people responsible. I do not recall him ever even trying to attemt this, Oh, the was the bombing of the aspirin factory in india I believe. Every time I see someone in millitary uniform or something that signifies they were in or are military I make it a point to go to them and thank them for serving our country. I do not agree with everything Bush does, but I do agree with him in going after these cowards who use G*d as an excusse to kill. You have heard of the phrase "sleeping with the enemy" well we are working, living and sleeping with them. It's time to wake up and smell the Camle dung.
Posted by Jeff Strawther (jdkcc4jc@sbcglobal.net ) on 2005-07-23 14:32:19 PDT
As a proud american im glad that our man survived that attack from that douchebag chicken sh** a**hole.
Posted by Brandon (b@b.ie ) on 2005-07-29 06:55:41 PDT
Photographs from the persian gulf I want too see are the orher saddam so called Imposter photos they used too be on google Images and I cant find any the still lif whould be just fine even there custody photo graphs' too:www)
Posted by CHRIS (T@waire.com ) on 2005-08-02 12:38:30 PDT
hehe cool video
Posted by chirurgia estetica (j.koma@yahoo.com http://www.ilmiochirurgo.com) on 2005-08-03 07:59:05 PDT
" Now, war ended, all i am left with are simple, unprofound scraps of truth.Men die. Fear hurts and humiliates. It is hard to be brave. It is hard to know what bravery is. Dead human beings are heavy and awkward to carry, things smell different in Iraq, soldiers are dreamers, drill seargents are boors,some men thought that war was proper and others didnt and most didnt care.IS that the stuff for morality lesson, even for a theme? Do dreams offer lesson? Do nightmares have themes?Do we awaken and analyze them and live our lives and advice others as a result?Can a foot soldier teach anything important about war, merely for having been there ?. He can tell war stories." this was in an email froma soldier look i was told this am iraqi civi that our the troops are killing for fun :( [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/2284/warpics2035jr.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Posted by rastasweetie (krewldevices@hotmail.com ) on 2005-08-04 12:47:22 PDT
it didnt work :( try this http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/2284/warpics2035jr.jpg
Posted by marya (krewldevices@hotmail.com ) on 2005-08-04 12:48:19 PDT
i have clips and pics of people being killed all over the place :( .isnt this wrong to send these to me ???
Posted by marya (krewldevices@hotmail.com ) on 2005-08-04 12:49:59 PDT
it's good to see one of ours get back up again. i know a guy who had to carry 7 of his dead friends out of a crashed chinook, they didn't get back up. this is cause for celebration.
Posted by withheld (naziferatu@yahoo.com http://none) on 2005-08-14 15:43:00 PDT
This is futher proof that the war is unjust in Iraq. The Yanks and Brits have no right or support to be there. Any fool with half a brain knows that you cant go into another mans country and fight him on his own turf. Vietnam, N. Ireland, Iraq, and Afghanastan are just some examples of failure by foreign occupation troops. Get out, stay out, and sort your own problems out America and Britain.
Posted by John (johnhurson@hotmail.com ) on 2005-08-17 05:20:00 PDT
agreed with withheld, the brits got their concenquences already (deadly bombings) and if US doesnt retreat soon, whoahohohoho, u know what i mean
Posted by Monkeyfighter (blahblah@blahblah.com ) on 2005-08-19 04:53:39 PDT
think u meant agreed with John! anyways, i also agree with John and also "Monkeyfighter" PS: u all should watch Farenhite 911
Posted by Deathbomb (sku@sku.ass ) on 2005-08-19 04:55:50 PDT
ok...after watching the clip like about 12 times, the allah akbar thing is starting to get really anoying
Posted by a (a@asdasff.com ) on 2005-08-19 04:57:44 PDT
NO A LA GUERRA. HAZ EL AMOR. NO TO WAR. MAKE LOVE.
Posted by TechnopodMan (technopodcast@yahoo.es http://www.freewebs.com/technopodcast) on 2005-08-23 04:28:01 PDT
That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. We will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane. Funny stuff. I'll be back...
Posted by Brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-08-24 22:04:47 PDT
JUST A NOTE. Whatever asshole is posting giving MY journal as a link isn't me. LOSER.
Posted by SUGARPUSS (xxbringmesugarxx@aol.com http://sugarpuss.livejournal.com) on 2005-08-28 17:04:42 PDT
Hey Brad, What do you know about being a man?? That soldier could kick the crap out of you with half his brain tied behind his back. It is not bieng a wimp (simple words from your simple mind.) to have a tank behind you, it's good common sense you maggott.
Posted by Jeff (jdkcc4jc@sbcglobal.net ) on 2005-08-30 16:42:26 PDT
Hey Jeff, Watch who leaves Iraq with their tails behind their backs. It is good common sense not to come to another persons country and think you own it. As an ex-marine I may know a little bit more about being involved in foreign entaglements than you. When one is wrong, one is wrong. Simple.
Posted by Brad (jdkcc4jc@sbcglobal.net ) on 2005-08-30 23:19:58 PDT
You know why I'm pissed? Because my Father's friend, who served with him in Vietnam. Has been recalled to service, as a "voluteer" against his will. He is over there risking his life so that we can drive our outdated, gas guzzulling SUVs and Hummers and ignore the real problems of the world that cause wars. Like Hunger, and basic needs not being met. Any one of you "conservatives" ever fight in a war you didn't sign up for?! Any one of you "liberals" ever feed a man you don't know or never will know? Or is helping the bum on the street not worth your time. Geez, lets take care of our problems at home and then address the real problems of the world. If we weren't the worlds policemen, we wouldn't have to worry about Nukes coming our way. If we weren't an Empire trying to disguise ourselves as a democracy, our sons would not be dying in IRAQ. Either way, I think (and yes I know I'm a hipped A-HOLE =) ) we just need to start loving each other, differing opinions and all
Posted by Ryan (ryacav@msn.com ) on 2005-09-02 12:14:38 PDT
buck fush!
Posted by dick (dick@yahoo.com ) on 2005-09-03 22:07:41 PDT
why are you demeaning people on their political beleifs. There is no such thing as a true moderate, your either Liberal or Conservative
Posted by k (kc_ranger@hotmail.com ) on 2005-09-04 23:03:52 PDT
That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people.
Posted by Brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-09-05 15:25:32 PDT
Well, I have a few things to say to the ignorant people over here, and just to clarify things for the smarter ones too. I will first tupe the quote, then type me: and say what I think about it... what he really needed to do was jump up and tell them dumb fucks that he was in fact Allah himself. After that he should have told them to kill themselves or he would condemn them to hell me: so....if my religion woudnt stop me, i would have talked back to this guy about a good few things about HIS religion... they speak of intolerance.... US should've invaded Saudi Arabia, its not like the Arab people, the Persians and Turks just LOVE the Saudi royal family. Saudi Arabia is even NAMED after them. Invade and kill the royal family, and people will be happy. They're dictators and cruel rulers, who DO fund terrorist organizations. me: I wish people wound provide sufficient evidence about stuff instead of speaking shit all the time.... I know you all probably think that Islam is a peacefull religion and that the "terrorists" are actually extremists. You couldnt be more wrong. The terrorists are a perfect example of a "good" muslim. The koran instructs all muslims to wage holy war on the entire earth untill the earth is completely islamic. want proof?? "Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.” thats just one verse out of hundreds. Islam is a religion of war created by a man who claimed to be a prophet but was nothing but a pirate, warmonger, thief, murderer etc. Jesus Christ is the only person that can bring you salvation, not dying in a holy war.... me: jerk off in my opinion... i got 3 translation of that verse off the net.... YUSUFALI: Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). PICKTHAL: And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. SHAKIR: And let not those who disbelieve think that they shall come in first; surely they will not escape. You know, it digusts me to know that there are still some people here that support these ideas. Some peopel resist education....
Posted by Hamza (hamza_ishak@hotmail.com ) on 2005-09-15 18:52:32 PDT
Quote -my response This is futher proof that the war is unjust in Iraq. The Yanks and Brits have no right or support to be there. Any fool with half a brain knows that you cant go into another mans country and fight him on his own turf. Vietnam, N. Ireland, Iraq, and Afghanastan are just some examples of failure by foreign occupation troops. Get out, stay out, and sort your own problems out America and Britain. -really? I was under the impression that the insurgents weren't from Iraq either... agreed with withheld, the brits got their concenquences already (deadly bombings) and if US doesnt retreat soon, whoahohohoho, u know what i mean -the Iraqi children also got their bombing. Spain who doesn't have any troops in Iraq got their bombing. Notice a pattern? Innocents being bombed? Yeah, it's called terrorism. Hey Jeff, Watch who leaves Iraq with their tails behind their backs. It is good common sense not to come to another persons country and think you own it. As an ex-marine I may know a little bit more about being involved in foreign entaglements than you. When one is wrong, one is wrong. Simple. -thank you for your service. I'm sure the Iraqi citizens thank you for your service. As for foreign entanglements, this is a world issue. That's why we have allies all over the world helping out. You know why I'm pissed? Because my Father's friend, who served with him in Vietnam. Has been recalled to service, as a "voluteer" against his will. He is over there risking his life so that we can drive our outdated, gas guzzulling SUVs and Hummers and ignore the real problems of the world that cause wars. Like Hunger, and basic needs not being met. Any one of you "conservatives" ever fight in a war you didn't sign up for?! Any one of you "liberals" ever feed a man you don't know or never will know? Or is helping the bum on the street not worth your time. Geez, lets take care of our problems at home and then address the real problems of the world. If we weren't the worlds policemen, we wouldn't have to worry about Nukes coming our way. If we weren't an Empire trying to disguise ourselves as a democracy, our sons would not be dying in IRAQ. Either way, I think (and yes I know I'm a hipped A-HOLE =) ) we just need to start loving each other, differing opinions and all -you know why he got called to service? Probably because he was in the Reserve. If not, I don't know what to say, but I doubt he was picked up off the street and carried off to Iraq. WE need to start loving each other for our differences? I thought it was the terrorists who were killing everybody who didn't agree with them. But wait, they kill Muslims too. They kill everybody! Let's give them a nice warm hug. buck fush! -original. wow. I'm sure you'd like to. That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people. -now that's just down right disrespectful. Bush and his supporters are ignorant and scared? That's why they responded strongly to 9/11 to make us safer? What would you have said if they did nothing but make empty promises? Nothing I guess, as long as they're a Democrat. On a personal note, go upgrade your heart. They're selling ones much better than yours cheap on Death Row. Above guy, too long to quote. -Good points, those were poor arguments. Quote 1: I think the guy was trying to be funny. Quote 2: Sufficient evidence should always be provided. http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/saudi_arabia.htm Quote 3: I have had a roommate who is Muslim. He's a nice guy. The terrorists are not nice people. It takes cold blood to blow yourself up in the midst of children.
Posted by Eric (tobusyforspam@blah.com ) on 2005-09-16 00:45:28 PDT
Well that doesn't look good at all. How does this web page handle Enters... it looks like one continuous lump lol
Posted by Eric (tobusyforspam@blah.com ) on 2005-09-16 00:47:02 PDT
2nd Try, I apologize for taking up so much room ***Quote ---my response ***This is futher proof that the war is unjust in Iraq. The Yanks and Brits have no right or support to be there. Any fool with half a brain knows that you cant go into another mans country and fight him on his own turf. Vietnam, N. Ireland, Iraq, and Afghanastan are just some examples of failure by foreign occupation troops. Get out, stay out, and sort your own problems out America and Britain. ---Really? I was under the impression that the insurgents weren't from Iraq either... ***agreed with withheld, the brits got their concenquences already (deadly bombings) and if US doesnt retreat soon, whoahohohoho, u know what i mean ---The Iraqi children also got their bombing. Spain who doesn't have any troops in Iraq got their bombing. Notice a pattern? Innocents being bombed? Yeah, it's called terrorism. ***Hey Jeff, Watch who leaves Iraq with their tails behind their backs. It is good common sense not to come to another persons country and think you own it. As an ex-marine I may know a little bit more about being involved in foreign entaglements than you. When one is wrong, one is wrong. Simple. ---Thank you for your service. I'm sure the Iraqi citizens thank you for your service. As for foreign entanglements, this is a world issue. That's why we have allies all over the world helping out. ***You know why I'm pissed? Because my Father's friend, who served with him in Vietnam. Has been recalled to service, as a "voluteer" against his will. He is over there risking his life so that we can drive our outdated, gas guzzulling SUVs and Hummers and ignore the real problems of the world that cause wars. Like Hunger, and basic needs not being met. Any one of you "conservatives" ever fight in a war you didn't sign up for?! Any one of you "liberals" ever feed a man you don't know or never will know? Or is helping the bum on the street not worth your time. Geez, lets take care of our problems at home and then address the real problems of the world. If we weren't the worlds policemen, we wouldn't have to worry about Nukes coming our way. If we weren't an Empire trying to disguise ourselves as a democracy, our sons would not be dying in IRAQ. Either way, I think (and yes I know I'm a hipped A-HOLE =) ) we just need to start loving each other, differing opinions and all ---You know why he probably got called to service? Probably because he was in the Reserve. If not, I don't know what to say, but I doubt he was picked up off the street and carried off to Iraq. WE need to start loving each other for our differences? I thought it was the terrorists who were killing everybody who didn't agree with them. But wait, they kill Muslims too. They kill everybody! Let's give them a nice warm hug. ***buck fush! ---Original. wow. I'm sure you'd like to. ***That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people. ---Now that's just down right disrespectful. Bush and his supporters are ignorant and scared? That's why they responded strongly to 9/11 to make us safer? What would you have said if they did nothing but make empty promises? Nothing I guess, as long as they're a Democrat. On a personal note, go upgrade your heart. They're selling ones much better than yours cheap on Death Row. ***Above guy, too long to quote. ---Good points, those were poor arguments. Quote 1: I think the guy was trying to be funny. Quote 2: Sufficient evidence should always be provided. http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/saudi_arabia.htm Quote 3: I have had a roommate who is Muslim. He's a nice guy. The terrorists are not nice people. It takes cold blood to blow yourself up in the midst of children.
Posted by Eric (tobusyforspam@blah.com ) on 2005-09-16 00:51:14 PDT
Well Eric is not the brightest guy here. Iraq and its people have never, repeat never, done anything to America. America has killed more innocent children with our bombs dropped from a cowardly 10,000 feet then any so called terrorist. Hey Eric, who is breaking down peoples doors all across Iraq and terrorizing Iraqi families? Have you ever had someone break into your home who does not speak English and point a gun at your family? You should see the fear in people eyes, as I did in Somalia when we broke down peoples doors. You are very ignorant and do not know a thing about the terror America causes because of people like you. This guy is a Christian extremist just like the Muslim extremists. He justifies killing the same as these others do. Very naive and ignorant. America will not last with ignorance like this guy. He will be the downfall of America as the world tires of Americas arrogance and ignorance.
Posted by brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-09-16 12:11:58 PDT
Oh, you mean our precision-guided bombs capable of hitting within a few yards of a target. A military target purposefully located in a civilian area? That kind of bomb? Or are you talking about the bombs strapped to an old car and blown up among policemen and civilians? Is it less cowardly to drop a bomb from 0.0 feet? I don't appreciate your insults, but I have nothing to prove to you. And how are we terrorizing Iraqi citizens any more than Saddam Hussein? I am not going to say I completely understand what the feelings are of the Iraqi families. I would be scared out of my wits. I wouldn't be so afraid of this non-English speaking gun-toter if my government asked him to be there, though. As for Somalia, that was/is an entirely different scenario. All I have to say about American terror, is what about the terror caused by car bombs? Suicide planes? Bombs in subways? Bombs strapped to peoples' backs? Assassinations? Abductions? Beheadings? What is going on in Iraq, is a nationless terrorist group fighting in Iraq (whose ranks do include a small minority of Iraqis) who say that Iraqis have no right to freedom. My point is, we would not be there if it were not for these fighters. Allow me to make a comparison; Nazi Germany invades France. We go to liberate France. Nazi Germany says "you have no right to." France says "yes, we want to be free." American government says "ok, we'll help you." Liberals say "no, sorry, we don't want foreign entanglements." There were also Frenchmen who helped the Nazis (it was called Vichy France). Yet very few people claim it was wrong to liberate France. Its amazing how fast countries like France forget the price of freedom. I am a Christian; I won't lie about it or cover it up. I'm not going to force people to be Christian or kill everyone who isn't a Christian. I don't see any correlation between myself and them. The only time killing is justified is to prevent the victim (I can't believe I'm using that word to describe a terrorist) from killing more people and civilians. America is arrogant and ignorant? Is that why Britain is on our side as well? Is that why the world is fighting terrorism? What should we do, let the terrorists roam free? Let them do whatever they want? Let's see, what do they want...to kill all the infidels and rule the world. That's been tried before. It's called Hitler wants to kill all the Jews and rule the world. And you know what preceeded Hitler? Appeasement. The only difference is the terrorists are smarter; they are playing off your sympathies and fighting using guerilla tactics. What will be the downfall of America is: our leaders are stupid, they send our soldiers off to die for nothing, they don't have a clue. War is always a terrible, terrible thing. But what happens if we don't go to war? People die anyway. Civilians die. And that's why the US going to war is necessary. Not for us, for those children and families who sit scared in their homes, trying to suvive. We are fighting for their freedom. Iraq is trying to get its government on its feet. The terrorists want us gone? Leave us alone and we'll finish up and leave. That's not the terrorists' objective. Their objective is to destroy the freedom of Iraqis. What right do they have to say that the Iraqi people do not deserve the freedom to dress how they want, which is guaranteed to us, and to you Brad, by the implications of the First Amendment. Are we no longer dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal? Or is that imposing our values on the rest of the world. That's right; we're so bad. The Iraqi citizens don't want freedom. We are so pushy. The difference between me and you is that your morals are relative. You call me ignorant? I call you heartless. I'm too busy for more arguing (I hate getting sucked into these things). Later.
Posted by Eric (toobusyforspam@blah.com ) on 2005-09-16 16:23:13 PDT
Eric is still showing his ignorance. Iraq never, repeat never, had a suicide bombing or Car bombing before we invaded their country. The hell that is going on is the result of our actions and yes, America is responsible for this. There were not any terrorists in Iraq until we invaded, plain fact. Again, Iraq has never done anything to America. America has invaded and killed more people in other countries than any other country since WWII. Fact.Check it! America keeps track of other governments killing people but refuses to keep track of the civillians we kill. Fact. There is no comparison between Iraq and Germany. Iraq is not invading other countries. Hell, Iraq had no military left after Persion Gulf war, not a single fighter jet and maybe a 20-30 tanks. In fact, America keeps dictators in power in the Middle East: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iraq(the CIA helped Sadamn Husein kill the former president of Iraq), Egypt, Iran(we installed the Shah before they had a revolution to get rid of him). Erics stupidity shows again, the Iraqis can dress how they want and Iraqi women had the most freesom in the Middle East. They could drive, dress the way they want, hold government positions, ect..Sadamn was not a religious person, that is why Bin Laden called for his overthrow. You are very ignorant Eric. A democracy full of ignorance is dangerous. And to top is off, Eric thinks our bombs do not kill civillians, did you know that we targeted Iraqs Electricity, sewage, economic centers, telephone companies, water companies, ect.. These are all military targets that you destroy when invading another country. All civillian employed. Then we turn around and give contracts to American companies to fix the damage. Also, your ignorance shows yet again, very few bombs are smart bombs and they destroy the target plus homes around the target. Freedom at the end of anothers gun is not freedom, you idiot, it is occupation. They want freedom from us!! America has prevented freedom in the Middle East by installing dictators again and again. Maybe France should invade America so that our women are free and do not have to wear tops on the beach, or maybe Germany should invade so that our children can drink beer legally, or maybe Israel should invade so that we can have legalized prostitution, ect.. Eric, you are very ignorant and that will be the downfall of America. In fact, most of the world is against us being in Iraq, including both of our neighbors and all of Iraqs neighbors. You are truly ignorant.
Posted by Brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-09-19 10:53:06 PDT
Continuation of Erics ignorance. Did you know that Sadamn Hussein protected religious freedom in Iraq, there are Christian churches and Jewish churches in Iraq. You are truly ignorant if you did not know this.
Posted by Brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-09-20 00:47:50 PDT
That was funny. Stupid little USA soldier. They will get you next time. Run you little wimp or maybe call in an airstrike because you can't stand man to man unless you have a tank and airplane to support your illegal war. Funny stuff. When in history has it ever been right to invade another country. When you are wrong, you are wrong. I'm gonna sit back and watch the USA run away with their tail between their legs over the next few years. Bush and his supporters are ingnorant, scared little people.
Posted by Brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-09-30 23:08:03 PDT
Does allah akbar mean "I am such a fucking idiot" or "Oh mi god I just shit in the toilet?
Posted by Joe (js14elbert@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 13:26:37 PDT
Hey, I think that allah akbar means "damn, the shit just hit the fan." Holy fuck, I hate these goddamn motherfuckers, what with their damn crazy rantin and all. I think they should take their allah and shove him up their asses. Sick fuckers.
Posted by Marine (stan@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 13:29:12 PDT
Damn, Marine I agree with you. I am sick of these shitty assholes fuckin our soldiers at night and blowin up the U.S. during th day. They oughtta be blown to crap. That should teach em a good lesson bout messin with the U.S. Iraqi motherfuckers.
Posted by Davis (davis@msn.com ) on 2005-10-03 13:31:44 PDT
I agree. Lets nuke em all. If I ever meet a terrist, this is what I gonna say: This land is my land, this land ain't yer land, I got a shotgun, and u don't fucking got one, if you don't get off, I'll blow yer ass off, this land was made fer me not you! Fuckin shitheads!
Posted by doggie (dogbreath@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 13:34:10 PDT
Anyone who hates Bush is a poo poo head. If you hate the war against terrisom, then you are a fucking shitbomb waitin for it's next... What was i gonna say? Oh yeah, fuck you liberals! Shove your Iraqi too toos up youse asses.
Posted by jetboy (rats@msn.com ) on 2005-10-03 13:53:32 PDT
Those fucking terrorists were probably saying this: Terrorist- Damn, that was a fucking good shot. I got the U.S. fucker! What the fuck. Oh mi god, oh mi god. He got up! Ohhhhhh shiiittt. Man, I just crapped my pants. Wheres a good Kleenex when you need one. Other Terrorist- FNG! (fucking new guy) T no. 1- I am gonna killlll you, you fucking Army shitboy. Now, where's that damn AK 47?
Posted by doggie (dogbreath@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:05:53 PDT
Iraqi motherfucker shootin at my boys. Man am I gonna waste his ass if I ever see im. Where's that M1-D Garand sniper rifle I had?
Posted by doggie (dogbreath@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:08:18 PDT
Maybe next time the fuckers should use a grenade launcher on their asses.
Posted by jessica (hottie@msn.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:09:22 PDT
Hey jessica, can I have them red bras you got in your second droor? After I waste yer pretty pink pussy I think you won't be needing them. Liberal clit bitch.
Posted by doggie (dogbreath@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:11:13 PDT
I think allah akhbar means: "Ohhhhh mannn, I got dirhhea bad this time." Ooh, I can feel it coming out of my underwear. Damn, but these panties just aint my size.
Posted by Hiss (snake@msn.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:13:34 PDT
Actually, allah akhbar means: Holy fuck, the guy just got the fuck up! Man, I thought I wasted his ass dead to rights! Oooh, whats that smell. Oh fuck, man, did you shit your pants? Oh mann, the stench.
Posted by Hiss (snake@msn.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:23:57 PDT
Non-Bush supporters ain't welcome here. Neither are you damn libbies, especially you jessica. By the way, you wouldn't happen to have pink bras would you?
Posted by doggie (dogbreath@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 14:26:08 PDT
Look at the coward Bush and his supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
Posted by Brad (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-03 22:29:31 PDT
jackandjack69@yahoo.com .. you will die in hell with Osama ok
Posted by Cindy (ihateosama@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-05 08:30:06 PDT
Why Americans Are Funny: 1. They are overweight and need a tank to carry them around 2. They can only speak one language, as they are ingnorant and trail the world in academics 3. They cannot bear to see a casket on their TV, as Bush is a coward and knows Americans will cry 4. They go to other countries and get run out as they miss their McDonalds and Dairy Queen. 5. Even their parents get divorced as they cannot stand each other or their children. 6. The whole world laughs whenever their president opens his mouth as he cannot even speak one language. 7. Their religion is full of homosexual preists. 8. Their president could not even hack the National Guard because he was a drunk. 9. Their military are Republicans until they get out and then because they are to stupid they need a government job or a Union job and turn Democrat so they will be taken care of. 10. Their women are fatter then the men and need makeup to cover their pasty white skin.
Posted by Cindy (iloveosama@yahoo.com ) on 2005-10-05 09:30:47 PDT
Allahu Akbar! an awsom vidoe of an american homo "soldier" after taking a direct hit cowering behind his vehicle searching for a refuge, too bad you scum of the earth americans, you have no where to hide. loool
Posted by your worst nightmare (halleluja@yahoo.com ) on 2005-11-06 01:04:48 PDT
Fuck all ya american Bastards, u know ur all goin 2 hell! Fuck yall! ALLAHU AKBAR!
Posted by FUCK USA (osama@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-07 06:45:04 PDT
Why can't we all get along and fuck each other in the ass. It hurt less and it's more fun. We are the world, we are the children...
Posted by Chirac (mycerinos@yahoo.com ) on 2005-11-09 22:26:57 PDT
You should post these videos to www.revver.com and make some money off of them.. I just found it.. it is cool.
Posted by Lillian (rmwol@yahoo.com ) on 2005-11-10 23:57:17 PDT
Gun and no uniform fighting for homeland = guerilla warfare. Going out and shooting and/or bombing civilians = terrorism. Nuke them? Not a reasonable solution. Rather send in the tanks and helicopters, conventional bombers and beat the shit out of every place where some one shot at an american or coalition soldier. Simple. You protect guerillas you are with them. Shooting in the town in the evening, town wiped out in the morning. This will make them think twice before they hide them or help them. Civilized armies are better equipped, better trained so they can deal with faithful Allah followers. A good muslim is converted muslim or a dead one.
Posted by Robert (Rob14556@yahoo.ca ) on 2005-11-21 10:17:55 PDT
Allah Akbar means: Allah, you fucked me again. This soldier is alive and he will send me to see profet Mohhamed as soon as he finds me. Oh Allah, I will convert to Buddhism because you left me hanging, motherfucker.
Posted by Robert (Rob14556@yahoo.ca ) on 2005-11-21 10:30:30 PDT
Look at the coward Bush and his hypnotized war mongering supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words and be scared. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
Posted by Christians are Scared of Death (jackandjack69@yahoo.com ) on 2005-11-25 23:23:56 PDT
Yeah..hide in the USA...along with about 12 million people from around the rest of the world who come here for peace from muslim terror. We aim to send as many of the Muslim martyrs to Allah as possible. And, it is way too bad we cant send their useful idiot supporters along with em...but, unfortuantely, the USA does not work that way...but damn well we should. Go ahead...hate America...your turn will come soon enough and you will be running to the nearest "America this way" sign.
Posted by Jim (pcslvn@yahoo.com ) on 2005-11-28 09:45:30 PDT
Gawd, I'm not american, I'm spanish, but if I saw you say that in front of me I'd still beat the hell out of you. I speak 3 languages(Spanish, English and German-And I'm being modest not counting my french) I'm just 17, but I don't really regard it as an intelligence proof, and I know what I'm talking about here. (But to be honest I do consider you an idiot) If you think I'm one of those christian radicalists from my country I'll also tell you I've been atheist since I was 10, and I was actually educated christian. But in contrast with some of the idiots here I have a mind of my own. Also, some americans might be overweight, but I'm sure any US military would kick your ass, so show some respect to this man. You most likely wont ever know what to be in a conflict such Iraq now. You probably wont ever know what it is like to be waken up by the sound of mortar fire instead of your alarm clock. So next time you want to open your mouth and unleash your nonsense about any veteran think that you didn't and never will walk a mile in his boots. I wont even check to see what you answered because I simply don't give a toss about stupid brats like you. PS: Whoever thinks that the people fucking up Iraq now can be called insurgents are simply wrong. Insurgents were people such as the Spanish when Napoleon invaded them, like some French when Hitler conquered their country and people who raised against the british in Bunker Hill. An insurgent doesn't fuck up his country and kill his own people. An insurgent wouldn't rise against his country's new police force. An insurgent doesn't want anarchy in his country. And an insurgent doesn't create militia groups that take after Al-quaeda Only the demented minds of terrorist can do such things.
Posted by FritzNietzsche (fritznietzsche@gmail.com ) on 2005-12-02 19:28:09 PDT
I'm only answering for the insulting e-mail you sent me. Which shows you have shit knowing of history too. You're the idiot here. I hope you didn't refer to me as a USA Bush supporter, I think you didn't but you never know what idiots mean. First I dont support Bush, but I support the Iraq war, and I support the soldiers who helped in taking Saddam out. And I'm not alone here, in fact the mayority of the Iraqui people are with me, lets be honest, they know more about their country than you do or me. And your comments here against these people themselves are a proof of what you really are: an idiot. You go step with people who are much more sick than what you claim the US is. If you want footage that proves this:http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/ just check the "KNOW YOUR ENEMY SECTION" and watch if you can. PS: What super country do you come from?
Posted by FritzNietzsche (fritznietzsche@gmail.com ) on 2005-12-03 14:32:01 PDT
Look at the coward Bush and his supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
Posted by jew (godissantaclause@msn.com ) on 2005-12-24 15:41:19 PDT
usa pig uk pig white dirty pig shit fucking 3rdanimal country fuck all white bitch my dog cock beat laura bush face hahahha
Posted by fuck (zcn@msn.com ) on 2005-12-27 07:02:43 PDT
HEY THIS IS GOING TO ALL POO HEADS WHO WANT TO FUCK WITH THE US OF A: SOON YOU WILL BE FIGHTING AGAINST SOMETHING WHICH IS GOING TO KICK YOUR ASS CAUSE THE NEW FULLY AUTOMATIC COMBAT UNIT; NAMED F.A.C.U. CAN IDENTIFY POO HEADS AND SAW THEM OFF...
Posted by SKAARJBERSERKER (youcannotgiveitaname@hotmail.com ) on 2005-12-27 16:50:56 PDT
A SVD Dragunov against the soldier ... and the soldier dies.... maybe a P90 can do the work..but the NEATO ammo is hard to find.
Posted by Ram (bush.shit@hotmail.com ) on 2005-12-29 19:59:43 PDT
fuck u us soldiers. take that fucker. us is cowards. they just depend on their air support, but all the army is chickens
Posted by aaaa (aaa@aaa.com ) on 2006-01-07 23:07:16 PDT
For all that hate Americans and stuff like that. Just look at it from a human being point of view. No NATIONALITY NO RACE. No one should die (or nearly die like that). Imagine it was a family member. GOd protect all out there. War is unkind. JUST MY OPINION
Posted by WHY??? (www.fortydj@yahoo.com ) on 2006-01-09 03:00:03 PDT
Look at the coward Bush and his supporters. All they do is sit in USA and say words. Come on over cowards. I give you 2-3 years and you will run back home and sit on the streets as disabled homeless vets like you did in Vietnam, Korea and Somalia. You are a culture in decline and will never last the thousands of years as the Arabs or Asians have. Osama is laughing his ass off just like I am.
Posted by gawd (gawdisdead@aol.com ) on 2006-01-22 09:35:23 PDT
how dare u say something like that why dont u go out there and fight instead of bad mouthing Bush and his supporters and america isnt the only one out there right now there is a whole bunch of others over there.
Posted by Andrew (andrewhotcakes3@hotmail.com ) on 2006-01-23 18:10:00 PDT
andrew is dumb. invade another country who has never done anything to USA and kill them. you are dumb and ignorant. As a former marine I have been in combat, have you? Bush is an idiot who does not read books or know anything about the world. 98% of killers over there are Americans. How dare you say it is right to invade another country and kill and destroy thier society when they have done nothing. You are evil and ignorant. must be christian, they cannot help killing others.
Posted by gawd (gawdisdead@hotmail.com ) on 2006-01-24 09:45:53 PDT
yes i have actually been in combat i am a marine sniper. I have seen what they have done to people and you know what it is not preety. Ok if we dont go over there are just going to come over here and bomb us again so tell me do you think it is right for them to bomb us again.
Posted by andrew (andrewhotcakes3@hotmail.com ) on 2006-01-28 09:34:15 PDT
that damn soldier is my fucking hero now
Posted by {ETF} Lt.francis (jhrylfrancis@hotmail.com ) on 2006-01-31 15:24:23 PDT
That video was fucking incredible! I was in the military for 6 years and when you train over and over again you react like it is instinct. I bet tose towel heads shit their dirty nightshirts when they saw him get back up. You talk about all this war has done is make more terrorists, we will kill them too. Bring it on motherfuckers! Religion of peace my ass. These people are complete fucking idiots. They want you you to respect their religion (ISLAM translates DIRECTLY into SUBMISSION) but they will kill you if you do not convert or submit. They are burning buildings because someone printed a cartoon? I say print more fucking cartoons and piss em all off. The muslims can not get along with anybody! They are lucky we are there saving their sorry asses. I do believe that the majority of them want peace and a fair chance at a real life. To meet that gaol AND secure our freedom we need to get rid of the fucking fanatics.
Posted by Robert (hagel_robert@hotmail.com http://none) on 2006-02-11 01:09:28 PDT
hey gawd: fuck you. I would go over there and fight is I could. I could not get back in due to my age and I was upset about that. I told the recruiter I wanted the fast track to Iraq to fight. Would you go over and fight if you could. The reason you can have your fucked up viewpoint is that me and all the other veterans and the soldiers on the ground are fighting and/or have fought defending our freedom.
Posted by Robert (hagel_robert@hotmail.com http://none) on 2006-02-11 01:13:32 PDT
Hey Robert. Sorry to say I would be happy to go over and fight on the side of the Iraqis/Insurgents. Just dont know the language and they would most likely not want my help as my country just screwed theirs up. I am a former Marine and have been in combat. When USA attacks another country for illegal and aggresive reasons, I do not become blind to patriotism but realize that the USA is committing a crime and should be beaten. Iraq has nothing to do with my freedom, hell they did not even have an airforce or tanks, we took that out 15 years ago. Bush is taking more freedoms from you then any other person in this world, under a guise that you are to stupid to see. You are an ignorant sheep who follows when told to. A fearful and scared old coward who has probably never fought a battle in your life. Soldiers are soldiers no matter what your race/religion. I have more respect for any insurgent over the cowardly and utter stupidity of the Bush administration who asks others to fight their ideological wars. Robert is so stupid he does not even understand that USA will kill more Iraqis then Saddam ever did. He will then say it was done for peace. Delusional mixed with global stupidity and arrogance looks a lot like USA.
Posted by Gawd (gawdisdead@cox.net ) on 2006-02-13 18:05:53 PDT
So many ignorant comments posted. I am sure that they come from prepubescent teens who don't know the difference bewteen shit and clay. I see a lot of tough talk from people who hide behind their anonymity. 10 years from now when Iraq is a free democracy with a thriving economy, these dirtbags will keep their mouths shut for fear of getting their asses beat down. In any case, the point of this video is to show the professionalism and humility of the US soldier who was shot. Read the rest of the story if you are in any way inclined to know the truth. If history is any indicator, the cry babies and insulting whiners are never remembered. In the rare cases that they are, they are remembered for exactly what they were; misguided ill informed morons that speak without thinking.
Posted by Veritas (veritas@veritas.com ) on 2006-02-16 09:50:29 PDT
well i think that it is fucked up that u all are putting down bush and his supporters at least yhey have enough balls to state there opinion and not care what ppl think. oh yea and we are over there kicking all of ur asses in iraq
Posted by mary (ggblowers@aol.com http://ggblowers) on 2006-02-17 13:22:50 PDT
Hey Robert. Sorry to say I would be happy to go over and fight on the side of the Iraqis/Insurgents. Just dont know the language and they would most likely not want my help as my country just screwed theirs up. I am a former Marine and have been in combat. When USA attacks another country for illegal and aggresive reasons, I do not become blind to patriotism but realize that the USA is committing a crime and should be beaten. Iraq has nothing to do with my freedom, hell they did not even have an airforce or tanks, we took that out 15 years ago. Bush is taking more freedoms from you then any other person in this world, under a guise that you are to stupid to see. You are an ignorant sheep who follows when told to. A fearful and scared old coward who has probably never fought a battle in your life. Soldiers are soldiers no matter what your race/religion. I have more respect for any insurgent over the cowardly and utter stupidity of the Bush administration who asks others to fight their ideological wars. Robert is so stupid he does not even understand that USA will kill more Iraqis then Saddam ever did. He will then say it was done for peace. Delusional mixed with global stupidity and arrogance looks a lot like USA.
Posted by gawd (gawdisdead@cox.net ) on 2006-02-17 15:28:14 PDT
It is war. all I hear is people talking bullshit. If I would be standing in the shoes of those arabs. I would also fight back. it is a war in Irak because of oil and conntrolling the whole world, ask the 3 maisons ! hahaha the war needs to stop. immediately!
Posted by Shorty (blockbuster@hotmail.com ) on 2006-02-18 12:17:06 PDT
You are right my friend. billions of dollars get spent on weapons and ammunition. without thinking about their own civilisation. What happened in New Orleans explains the whole situation. The US Government is giving no fuck about the americans nation. It's the media and the president controls the media. everything is getting changed. This is going deeper than most people know about. Sooner or later the truth will appear. And then I would like to see the faces of all those american people who do love their president and who do love what is happening abroad. All I would like to say, open your eyes go and look up the internet sites. the truth is there. Now it is just the matter of using a perfect way to put G.Bush outta the scene. that will be on spiritual level. My peeps you will soon hear from me. The wars will stop soon. IT is time to come together !
Posted by Franklin (candycubes@hotmail.com ) on 2006-02-18 12:25:37 PDT
I am american. you are right my friends. I also begin to realize that there is something going on. this need to stop. Our country is getting destroyed by some satanic fools. Next monday I am going to establish a group of experts who are going to work on the anti bush campagne. dear greets. Jeremiah
Posted by Jeremiah (sweetydot@gmail.com ) on 2006-02-18 12:43:44 PDT
Hey Robert. Sorry to say I would be happy to go over and fight on the side of the Iraqis/Insurgents. Just dont know the language and they would most likely not want my help as my country just screwed theirs up. I am a former Marine and have been in combat. When USA attacks another country for illegal and aggresive reasons, I do not become blind to patriotism but realize that the USA is committing a crime and should be beaten. Iraq has nothing to do with my freedom, hell they did not even have an airforce or tanks, we took that out 15 years ago. Bush is taking more freedoms from you then any other person in this world, under a guise that you are to stupid to see. You are an ignorant sheep who follows when told to. A fearful and scared old coward who has probably never fought a battle in your life. Soldiers are soldiers no matter what your race/religion. I have more respect for any insurgent over the cowardly and utter stupidity of the Bush administration who asks others to fight their ideological wars. Robert is so stupid he does not even understand that USA will kill more Iraqis then Saddam ever did. He will then say it was done for peace. Delusional mixed with global stupidity and arrogance looks a lot like USA. Actually, looks a lot like the behavior of the Christian Nazis, yes the Nazi party was competely backed by their christian churches, look it up. Blind devotion.
Posted by Gawd (gawdisdead@cox.net ) on 2006-02-22 13:46:51 PDT
this guy is in the same buds bgu squad as i am he was wearing standard military bdu' some Bgu plates a standard M16A2 Infantry Assult Weapon luckily they hit him in his bgu plates otherwise he wouldent be the great soldier he is today
Posted by Cpl.Ryans (dylansaylors@hotmail.com ) on 2006-02-23 16:33:58 PDT
I really enjoy reading your articles. Keep up the great work. TBoardenson
Posted by Tom (tboardenson@hotmail.com http://#) on 2006-03-06 10:05:19 PDT
Thank God that the moron sniper was'nt smart enough to pop our boy in the face.Every time I see a video like that or hear another story from my cousin who is over there right now it makes it harder and harder to walk down the street and not wonder when the next attack on American soil will be.Hopefully never,but we still all need to be prepaired if one of these toothless towel heads is lucky enough to carry out an attack.
Posted by V.R (my4g63tsi@msn.com ) on 2006-03-19 22:28:58 PDT
stupid deutches cant shoot worth a freakin hoot....thats why were kicking their asses!! USA! semper fi
Posted by Gerald (marines4life07@hotmail.com ) on 2006-03-21 21:16:54 PDT
i am here , keep offffffffffffff
Posted by manuel (manual@yahoo.com ) on 2006-04-06 04:20:35 PDT
You are right.
Posted by mike (mike@baloon.cu ) on 2006-04-07 06:24:00 PDT
uff.. i cant watch it...
Posted by mike (mike@baloon.cu http://freaksheep.itgo.com/) on 2006-04-07 06:26:55 PDT
The unedited version is better. At the end you see the medic directing the rest of the platoon toward the insurgents. You can only imagine what the insurgents are thinking as three humvees start moving to them and the van is moving. Moments later they are shot up and the very medic who they shot is treating his attackers (not seen in the video clip). Last I heard the actual sniper is spending 15 years in Abu Grahib (pretty much a life sentence or a death sentence if he ends up in the shiite part of the block).
Posted by Max (crazy_train06@yahoo.com ) on 2006-04-08 10:49:35 PDT
The unedited version is better. At the end you see the medic directing the rest of the platoon toward the insurgents. You can only imagine what the insurgents are thinking as three humvees start moving to them and the van is moving. Moments later they are shot up and the very medic who they shot is treating his attackers (not seen in the video clip). Last I heard the actual sniper is spending 15 years in Abu Grahib (pretty much a life sentence or a death sentence if he ends up in the shiite part of the block).
Posted by Max (crazy_train06@yahoo.com ) on 2006-04-08 10:50:47 PDT
Its amazazing the ignorant people that hide behind the American Flag. Talk crap and even try to kill Americans... then hide. Gawdisdead@cox.net says he was in the Marine Corp, but wants to fight against America? If he was in the Marine Corps, he was a an embarrassment to the uniform. Your nothing but a goat hearder want to be, and should be shot.
Posted by Rick (rick.mellish@lackland.af.mil ) on 2006-04-09 09:21:38 PDT
Just getting back to what is actually going on in this video. First of all to dispell some myths that I saw posted previously. The IBAS that soldiers wear is not a flak jacket as one blogger mentioned. And it is in fact desgned to withstand high velocity rounds from a 7.62mm rifle. The IBAS is not your vietnam era kevlar chicken vest. It is a highle engineered mixture of ceramics, kevlar, and some other goodies. It is deisgned to not only stop a bullet but disperse the blow throughout the plates to reduce the effect of blunt trauma damage. That is why he got back up. Now for the video itself. The men who shot this were infact Iraqi, as dictated by the accent. They also are part of some sort of organized chain of command as the apparent lower ranking individual was calling the man chanting Allah Akbar "Sir." Allah Akbar means merely that Allah is the highest or greatest. the conversation within the chanting is what is interesting. The senior ranking individual tells the other man to wait for the right shot. When the soldier is chest front the shot is taken. Shortly after he gets up the man who took the shot says...he went down didnt he? And the senior man says yes yes he went down. Towards the end of the clip the younger man asks "shall we go now?" and the more senior replies no we need to stay around for a while. This makes me wonder a few things. First, what organization did these men belong to where they could stay around an area after shooting an American and have a weapon present? Secondly, the choice to stick around tells me that perhaps they never intended to kill the soldier and were merely gathering intel on how US Forces reacted to sniper fire. Just a hunch, I guess this case has been solved, I guess Ill see how close I am.
Posted by jman (JASON.AMBROSINO@US.ARMY.MIL ) on 2006-04-15 03:34:39 PDT
yeah you should see the other part of the video where the guy starts crying like a fucking baby just as all USA asshole.....fuck them and hope they all die fucking american scum
Posted by I hate USA (Ihateamericasoasallworld@usacrap.com ) on 2006-04-18 21:17:03 PDT
Excellent site, added to favorites!!
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Posted by set (set@aol.com http://www.freewebs.com/vitset) on 2006-05-11 01:49:58 PDT
lucky man
Posted by world (vcurt@aol.com http://perso.wanadoo.es/fsport) on 2006-05-16 05:37:49 PDT
amazing video! Thank God for body armor. I heard he tended to the injuries of the people who shot at him after they were captured.
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